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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jon_Dahl" data-source="post: 6077942" data-attributes="member: 89822">The great news is that my players managed to play the whole scenario through with a gold-medal-winning performance. I didn't give them any additional clues: no bored wife or a collapsing street was necessary. They simple handled it purely by their wits and guts.I've been thinking about this real-life conversation skills vs. in-game diplomacy skills issue and this is what I came up with:In basically all of the aspects of the game, it's always vital to know thy stuff.If you cast a spell, it's important you know the spell and apply it correctly. If you think that casting an inflict serious wounds is going to kill a vampire, I will let you do it. Obviously you didn't know how it works. If you have a conversation with an NPC and you give me a clear indication that the conversation takes less than 1 minute, then there will be no diplomacy roll (rushed one might apply). You have to know that the diplomacy check requires one minute conversation.Of course new players are a different breed. With them, I'm the most helpful guy you can imagine. But with these players I have played for 3.5 years. I refuse to believe that they don't know the rules by now. I want them to apply the game mechanics in the right way. If you cast a fireball in a small room or if you have 3-second conversations with NPCs or if try to climb a perfectly smooth wall, it's going to do you no good, but I appreciate that the players succeed and fail or their own. I'm not going autopilot for them.</blockquote>

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