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<blockquote data-quote="timbannock" data-source="post: 4775097" data-attributes="member: 17913"><p>- I don't know a single person living in NY that doesn't complain about the pricing either. If you want to get started with a job that is reaching out to a demand that isn't even really there (at least not 100% guaranteed to be there in droves), you need to start at the LOWEST possible price point for it to be worthwhile. That doesn't necessarily equal the optimal price for you personally.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>- That's a problem right there. These threads (at ENWorld, RPG.net, and the several other sites you've posted to) should serve as some indicator of the demand, not just that website. How much is questionable, but they should not be wholly disregarded. You've done other marketing research aside from your site as well: meetup.com and all that. What has the reception been like there? Has anyone bitten on your ideas yet? Don't just focus on your website, believe me. I work in eBusiness. As an analyst. Every stinkin' day.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>- My point isn't to ask for your references names and numbers. My point is to have YOU look at how many references you have, what kind of source they are, and if they will actually help you in the sense that if someone asks them "Hey, is this guy good at running team-building sessions and all the other stuff he says he can do?" that they will turn around and not just say "Yes," but also say WHY you are the man for the job. I don't care if your references are any good, because I'm not your target audience. But your target audience will sure care in a big way!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>- I'm living in a really expensive city, and moving to one of the top 10 most expensive cities in the U.S. And if I live in NY and my rent's expensive and the food's expensive and all that...doesn't that mean I have LESS disposable income? Doesn't that mean I want to watch my spending THAT MUCH MORE?</p><p></p><p>Or, think of it this way: you're offering your services to businesses as well as gamers (and other folks). Why would a business hire you? Businesses always think about bottom line: what RESULTS will you bring them for the money you are charging?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>- Whoa, that's operating under some faulty information. Team-building exercises are often VERY complicated. Maybe not in the end-user's view, per se, but in how they get people interacting, building trust, etc. Team-building exercises specifically have to have measurable results, actionable items. You can't just say "being in the room together and playing a game is team-building." It's so much more complicated than that.</p><p></p><p>If you want to ignore everything else I've said, then at least take this away from my posts: "Don't be so scattershot about your ideas. Focus your market really tight at first, and then expand it afterward, after it's succeeded with a single market. Currently you're trying to be too many things." </p><p></p><p>Moreover, I think the idea of running your business VERY closely in tandem with a few local game stores is probably one of the best ideas ever. That and/or publishing some adventures as PDFs. These two options have built-in, focused markets for you to tap into, where there is already demand. They would make great springboards for your business ventures later!</p><p></p><p>Please note that I come off as antagonistic sometimes because of my nature. I don't mean to be. I still have faith that your idea has merit, but I just want to point out potential real-world business pitfalls. I have no beef with you personally, and frankly, your constant posting about this shows that you are nothing if not dedicated to this idea. No matter how tough I am (or any other posters), nobody can take that away from you or deny it, and that's worthy of respect.</p><p></p><p>So please take all of my criticism in the most constructive light possible, as that is how it is meant to be. Hell, if you don't ever respond to my posts, I'm not going to cry. I just want you to reflect on what you're doing and do what's best for you and your intended business. As a student of business and business-related subjects, I feel that I do have some expertise in the field.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="timbannock, post: 4775097, member: 17913"] - I don't know a single person living in NY that doesn't complain about the pricing either. If you want to get started with a job that is reaching out to a demand that isn't even really there (at least not 100% guaranteed to be there in droves), you need to start at the LOWEST possible price point for it to be worthwhile. That doesn't necessarily equal the optimal price for you personally. - That's a problem right there. These threads (at ENWorld, RPG.net, and the several other sites you've posted to) should serve as some indicator of the demand, not just that website. How much is questionable, but they should not be wholly disregarded. You've done other marketing research aside from your site as well: meetup.com and all that. What has the reception been like there? Has anyone bitten on your ideas yet? Don't just focus on your website, believe me. I work in eBusiness. As an analyst. Every stinkin' day. - My point isn't to ask for your references names and numbers. My point is to have YOU look at how many references you have, what kind of source they are, and if they will actually help you in the sense that if someone asks them "Hey, is this guy good at running team-building sessions and all the other stuff he says he can do?" that they will turn around and not just say "Yes," but also say WHY you are the man for the job. I don't care if your references are any good, because I'm not your target audience. But your target audience will sure care in a big way! - I'm living in a really expensive city, and moving to one of the top 10 most expensive cities in the U.S. And if I live in NY and my rent's expensive and the food's expensive and all that...doesn't that mean I have LESS disposable income? Doesn't that mean I want to watch my spending THAT MUCH MORE? Or, think of it this way: you're offering your services to businesses as well as gamers (and other folks). Why would a business hire you? Businesses always think about bottom line: what RESULTS will you bring them for the money you are charging? - Whoa, that's operating under some faulty information. Team-building exercises are often VERY complicated. Maybe not in the end-user's view, per se, but in how they get people interacting, building trust, etc. Team-building exercises specifically have to have measurable results, actionable items. You can't just say "being in the room together and playing a game is team-building." It's so much more complicated than that. If you want to ignore everything else I've said, then at least take this away from my posts: "Don't be so scattershot about your ideas. Focus your market really tight at first, and then expand it afterward, after it's succeeded with a single market. Currently you're trying to be too many things." Moreover, I think the idea of running your business VERY closely in tandem with a few local game stores is probably one of the best ideas ever. That and/or publishing some adventures as PDFs. These two options have built-in, focused markets for you to tap into, where there is already demand. They would make great springboards for your business ventures later! Please note that I come off as antagonistic sometimes because of my nature. I don't mean to be. I still have faith that your idea has merit, but I just want to point out potential real-world business pitfalls. I have no beef with you personally, and frankly, your constant posting about this shows that you are nothing if not dedicated to this idea. No matter how tough I am (or any other posters), nobody can take that away from you or deny it, and that's worthy of respect. So please take all of my criticism in the most constructive light possible, as that is how it is meant to be. Hell, if you don't ever respond to my posts, I'm not going to cry. I just want you to reflect on what you're doing and do what's best for you and your intended business. As a student of business and business-related subjects, I feel that I do have some expertise in the field. [/QUOTE]
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