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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 6608141" data-attributes="member: 6790260">...so...I covered all of this. Remarkable Athlete does nothing except giving you extra jump distance, or +2 to stuff you aren't proficient in (for most of the game). It's a feature, certainly, but the amount of benefit it gives to exploration is terribly scanty. The EK gets magic, sure, and the cantrips can be great for pretty much any pillar--but the higher-level magic, AFAICT, has to come from the combat-related schools (Evocation and Abjuration, IIRC?) The cantrips are really the heavy lifters there. And, as stated, Know Your Enemy only applies to combat. It has literally zero use for anything not related to combat: you cannot learn anything about the target except its physical stats, HP, AC, general level, and Fighter level--and even then you have to pick just two, AND you only learn how it compares to you (higher/same/lower). It's NOT an interaction feature, nor is it an exploration feature. It's a combat feature, because it gives you information exclusively about combat and nothing else.So, in summary: Champions can jump 1-5 feet further and get a +1 to +3 bonus on certain stuff they aren't proficient in, some of which is exploration. The absolute barest minimum you could possibly have and still call it an "exploration feature."EKs get cantrips. They're good. 'Nuff said. Most of their magic won't be that useful outside of combat, but enough will.Battlemasters get proficiency in one set of artisan's tools, which may be useful outside of combat. Or may not! It may not ever have any use at all, in fact--a lot of the options are pure fluff, like painter's supplies or brewer's supplies. Know Your Enemy doesn't do a single thing about non-combat stuff--you will never learn anything about a person's psyche, motives, etc. Unless you're house-ruling, of course, in which case the entire subject is moot anyway.And if that is the standard we're setting for "having features," then simply having weapon proficiencies and the ability to make attacks should be plenty sufficient. Hell--a weapon proficiency is equivalent to artisan tool proficiency AND more broadly useful (since a weapon works in all combats ever, more or less, while artisan's tools are only useful in a narrow selection of exploration or interaction situations), and furthermore, it'll give a bigger bonus than Remarkable Athlete (twice as big, to be specific).Feats are not a core feature of the game, for one. For two, I'm never, ever going to accept "You can boost your Int/Cha/Wis!" as an "Exploration or Interaction" feature--particularly if I'm not going to accept class skills as "features." Yes, Fighters get 4 extra stat points to play around with--eventually. For the majority of the game, though, they're only 2 points ahead (starting at level 6; next 'extra' one is at level 14). And if I consider Remarkable Athlete a pittance, an extra +1 to your Int/Cha/Wis mod is even less. It's not an "exploration" or "interaction" *feature.* It's a stat boost. The stat boost may be workable to your favor in such situations, but that's not what it's "for." They're for boosting your stats. I wouldn't consider adding to your Str/Con/Dex to be a "combat" feature either. Now, something that lets you add your modifiers *to a combat action*? That's a combat feature. "Half your proficiency, round up" to stuff you're *not* proficient at? Barely a drop in the bucket. It's something, I cannot deny that, but (as stated above) if that's the bar we have to meet, the bar is very, very, VERY low indeed.</blockquote>

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