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<blockquote data-quote="Esker" data-source="post: 7641346" data-attributes="member: 6966824"><p>I'm not seeing why succeeding on an 8 on a stealth check is a problem. That's only a 65% chance of success. A cloud giant has a passive perception of 17, so with a +12 you need to roll a 5 or better to sneak around them (and that's assuming you're not sneaking past any guards who are making active checks). So the level 9 rogue specializing in stealth has an 80% chance to sneak around a cloud giant. And that's assuming they're going off by themselves, so that if they fail, they're in a lot of hot water. Why is that a problem?</p><p></p><p>And that's on a skill that aligns with the rogue's main ability score. It's even less of an issue when you get to skills like investigation, perception, deception, athletics, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Esker, post: 7641346, member: 6966824"] I'm not seeing why succeeding on an 8 on a stealth check is a problem. That's only a 65% chance of success. A cloud giant has a passive perception of 17, so with a +12 you need to roll a 5 or better to sneak around them (and that's assuming you're not sneaking past any guards who are making active checks). So the level 9 rogue specializing in stealth has an 80% chance to sneak around a cloud giant. And that's assuming they're going off by themselves, so that if they fail, they're in a lot of hot water. Why is that a problem? And that's on a skill that aligns with the rogue's main ability score. It's even less of an issue when you get to skills like investigation, perception, deception, athletics, etc. [/QUOTE]
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