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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 7597199" data-attributes="member: 6987520"><p>Darn! You caught me, Admiral. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Valid, but since I am talking about attacks/skills in general, I just wanted people to follow their gut overall.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Should versus any other word-choice is mostly a matter of semantics. "Could" works just as well, but I choose "Should" because this is a matter what you believe is likely and makes sense to you in your own game setting. Every table will differ of course, but that is what I want to know--how you think it "should" turn out (your opinion) individually.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am trying to get a feel for other peoples' thoughts on how someone with no training or skill whatsoever would fair in a contest against someone would ultimate proficiency in that training or skill.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. Ultimate skill is exactly what I describe: their proficiency is as good as experience can ever make it. They have no ability modifier (natural) to augment it. What you describe is someone with both high proficiency and high ability score (natural). My poll and question removes all other factors. If it makes you feel better, you can assume both persons have the same ability score appropriate for the skill/attack-type. Thus, non-proficiency versus highest or ultimate proficiency is the question here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 7597199, member: 6987520"] Darn! You caught me, Admiral. ;) Valid, but since I am talking about attacks/skills in general, I just wanted people to follow their gut overall. Should versus any other word-choice is mostly a matter of semantics. "Could" works just as well, but I choose "Should" because this is a matter what you believe is likely and makes sense to you in your own game setting. Every table will differ of course, but that is what I want to know--how you think it "should" turn out (your opinion) individually. I am trying to get a feel for other peoples' thoughts on how someone with no training or skill whatsoever would fair in a contest against someone would ultimate proficiency in that training or skill. No. Ultimate skill is exactly what I describe: their proficiency is as good as experience can ever make it. They have no ability modifier (natural) to augment it. What you describe is someone with both high proficiency and high ability score (natural). My poll and question removes all other factors. If it makes you feel better, you can assume both persons have the same ability score appropriate for the skill/attack-type. Thus, non-proficiency versus highest or ultimate proficiency is the question here. [/QUOTE]
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