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<blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 8344945" data-attributes="member: 6796468">While I recognize that a lot of different cultural traditions do deal in the idea of there being a form of life energy, there's no tradition that does:Ki-Empowered StrikesDeflect MissilesStunning StrikesStillness of MindPurity of BodyTongue of the Sun and MoonDiamond SoulTimeless BodyEmpty BodyPerfect Self.Ki is just one aspect of my overall problem with the monk class as a concept, which is largely in how the western world slathered some orientalism onto unarmed fighters.Fortunately, A5e did some changes. The only core class trait they've got to take that holds that kind of ... weight (that we know of) is Empty Mind at 7th. (They've only shown the first 10 levels so far)That said, they've still got Pressure Point Secrets, Hooked Sword Dance, and Water Walk as Foci and Knacks so it's not perfect... still better, overall.To be 100% Clear: I'm not saying anyone is &quot;bad&quot; for liking Monks as they exist in 5e or any previous edition of D&amp;D/Pathfinder/Whatever. Nor for liking A5e's Adepts or the various flavorings of their class abilities and optional class abilities. It's just something that makes me, personally, uncomfortable. And if I'm going to be putting it into a setting I'm writing I'm gonna change the narrative to be less uncomfortable for me as a writer.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Steampunkette, post: 8344945, member: 6796468"] While I recognize that a lot of different cultural traditions do deal in the idea of there being a form of life energy, there's no tradition that does: Ki-Empowered Strikes Deflect Missiles Stunning Strikes Stillness of Mind Purity of Body Tongue of the Sun and Moon Diamond Soul Timeless Body Empty Body Perfect Self. Ki is just one aspect of my overall problem with the monk class as a concept, which is largely in how the western world slathered some orientalism onto unarmed fighters. Fortunately, A5e did some changes. The only core class trait they've got to take that holds that kind of ... weight (that we know of) is Empty Mind at 7th. (They've only shown the first 10 levels so far) That said, they've still got Pressure Point Secrets, Hooked Sword Dance, and Water Walk as Foci and Knacks so it's not perfect... still better, overall. [B]To be 100% Clear:[/B] I'm not saying anyone is "bad" for liking Monks as they exist in 5e or any previous edition of D&D/Pathfinder/Whatever. Nor for liking A5e's Adepts or the various flavorings of their class abilities and optional class abilities. It's just something that makes me, personally, uncomfortable. And if I'm going to be putting it into a setting I'm writing I'm gonna change the narrative to be less uncomfortable for me as a writer. [/QUOTE]

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