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<blockquote data-quote="Calinon" data-source="post: 1145634" data-attributes="member: 13737"><p>I don't know that anyone playing in this campaign has books for M&M yet other than Agamon, so I don't know how we could possibly understand what is and what is not possible without asking, questioning and generally harassing Agamon about game mechanics. Seeing a 31 as an attack result, and that not being a crit, is rather mind boggling.</p><p> </p><p>Stepping up to the big leagues sounds like this sort of conversation:</p><p> </p><p>GM: The six of you are walking along a sunny path. Birds are chirping, a gentle breeze is swaying and grain is waving in the fields to either side of the path. Suddenly, six ogres leap out from the field, surrounding you and swinging massive two handed clubs at you in a bloodthirsty frenzy.</p><p>Players: SIX OGRES!?</p><p>Player 1: Dude, we're level 1!</p><p>Player 2: Holy crap, can we run?</p><p>GM: Nope, you have no avenue of escape. Time to step up to the big leagues!</p><p>Player 3: Remind me again why I spent seven hours in character creation?</p><p> </p><p>Agamon does this to us all the time, whether it is ogres, exploding goblin hordes, unstoppable dragons or 40' high rabid elk (those, if memory serves me, all happened in a 2 week span of playing). JE and Evolution are ogres, and we are level one characters. Par for the course, but it'd be nice to fight things needing more than a 5 to hit me. Just once I'd like this to happen:</p><p> </p><p>GM: The six of you are walking along a sunny path. Birds are chirping, a gentle breeze is swaying and grain is waving in the fields to either side of you. Suddenly, six naked midget kobolds spring from the field directly into your midst. You have them surrounded. </p><p>Players: Naked midget kobolds!?</p><p>GM: Yes.</p><p>Player 1: Whew, for a minute I was worried they'd be ogres.</p><p>Player 2: We have <em>them</em> surrounded?</p><p>GM: Yes.</p><p>Player 3: Could they possilby escape?</p><p>GM: Nope.</p><p>Player 4: I look at them funny.</p><p>Player 5: I laugh openly.</p><p>Player 6: I suggest they step up to the big leagues and proceed to slaughter them, secretly hoping they are vital NPC's that the GM spent hours creating specifically to advance the adventure along.</p><p>GM: ...</p><p>Player 6: Sucks, don't it?</p><p> </p><p>I think nobody has an issue with it being difficult to hit an opponent, if the opponent is equally matched for your group. But fighting overpowering odds with no hope of actual victory, whether you are naked midget kobolds or level one characters against ogres, or even low power heroes against high power heroes, is not exactly stepping up to the big leagues. It's like sending a peewee baseball team up against the starting lineup of the Yankees or the Canadiens up against the Senators. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p> </p><p>(I really think I captured the essence of Agamon in the first conversation <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Calinon, post: 1145634, member: 13737"] I don't know that anyone playing in this campaign has books for M&M yet other than Agamon, so I don't know how we could possibly understand what is and what is not possible without asking, questioning and generally harassing Agamon about game mechanics. Seeing a 31 as an attack result, and that not being a crit, is rather mind boggling. Stepping up to the big leagues sounds like this sort of conversation: GM: The six of you are walking along a sunny path. Birds are chirping, a gentle breeze is swaying and grain is waving in the fields to either side of the path. Suddenly, six ogres leap out from the field, surrounding you and swinging massive two handed clubs at you in a bloodthirsty frenzy. Players: SIX OGRES!? Player 1: Dude, we're level 1! Player 2: Holy crap, can we run? GM: Nope, you have no avenue of escape. Time to step up to the big leagues! Player 3: Remind me again why I spent seven hours in character creation? Agamon does this to us all the time, whether it is ogres, exploding goblin hordes, unstoppable dragons or 40' high rabid elk (those, if memory serves me, all happened in a 2 week span of playing). JE and Evolution are ogres, and we are level one characters. Par for the course, but it'd be nice to fight things needing more than a 5 to hit me. Just once I'd like this to happen: GM: The six of you are walking along a sunny path. Birds are chirping, a gentle breeze is swaying and grain is waving in the fields to either side of you. Suddenly, six naked midget kobolds spring from the field directly into your midst. You have them surrounded. Players: Naked midget kobolds!? GM: Yes. Player 1: Whew, for a minute I was worried they'd be ogres. Player 2: We have [i]them[/i] surrounded? GM: Yes. Player 3: Could they possilby escape? GM: Nope. Player 4: I look at them funny. Player 5: I laugh openly. Player 6: I suggest they step up to the big leagues and proceed to slaughter them, secretly hoping they are vital NPC's that the GM spent hours creating specifically to advance the adventure along. GM: ... Player 6: Sucks, don't it? I think nobody has an issue with it being difficult to hit an opponent, if the opponent is equally matched for your group. But fighting overpowering odds with no hope of actual victory, whether you are naked midget kobolds or level one characters against ogres, or even low power heroes against high power heroes, is not exactly stepping up to the big leagues. It's like sending a peewee baseball team up against the starting lineup of the Yankees or the Canadiens up against the Senators. :p (I really think I captured the essence of Agamon in the first conversation :D) [/QUOTE]
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