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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ValhallaGH" data-source="post: 5039521" data-attributes="member: 41187">What!?  How the heck did you get that?Shield is 7-12 inches wide or wider.  If balancing on it required a check, it would be DC 10.Surface is also DC 10, if it required a check at all.It was "sloped or angled" (+2), and may have counted as "lightly obstructed" (+2).Impose the "Accelerated Movement" penalty (-5) because he was moving a lot during that scene.Applying the penalty as an increased DC, the DC is now 19 (10 + 2 + 2 + 5).For reference, I based all my numbers on <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/balance.htm" target="_blank">the SRD</a>.That's an argument for giving it to all three classes, not for preventing the Ranger from having it.If you don't like characters going into superhuman and demigod levels of ability then don't play those parts of the game.  Those parts of the game are levels 6 through 20.  As the <a href="http://www.thealexandrian.net/creations/misc/d&d-calibrating.html" target="_blank">essay nonsi referenced</a> points out, the "real world" range of D&D ends at level 5; everything after exceeds the maximums placed throughout recorded history (excepting lifting strength, whose human max is actually around strength 23).And all of them are mortals that achieved godhead, not natural deities.No.  It means that slow fall at any level is as balanced as feather fall at first level.It's not useless because the character's not relying upon another character class, or item, to provide the ability.Is Weapon Focus useless because magic weapons exist?  Is Improved Critical useless because the Keen enchantment exists?  No, they are not.The inconsistent and incomplete DR system?THAT is the first mention of a level of enhancement affecting the amount of DR that is bypassed.  NOWHERE in the DR section is it explicitly stated how this partial bypassing works.That's utterly unacceptable and would cause me to never use DR as written, ever, if I were to use Project Phoenix.An alteration that combines with the altered save progression to be utterly unplayable.Fighter 20 / Barbarian 20 has a base Will save of +12 (BAB +30).  A Cleric 20 / Druid 20 has a base Will save of +22 (BAB +27).In a d20 system, 10 points, before ability scores, is too great a variable.  Realistically, this is a variance of at least 17.That's simply too freaking wide.The 6 point base variance found in the 3.x Epic rules is barely tolerable (practical difference of +13), with a number of Can't Fail / Can't Succeed combination occurring.  You've exacerbated the problem by allowing an even wider gap to form.Um, no they don't.  Full-BAB has +30.  3/4 BAB has +27.  1/2 BAB has +20.  And Wiz 20 / Fight 20 has a +25.  You've still got a 10 point gap between the best and the worst, but the Medium and the Best are almost identical.  CoDZilla reigns supreme.Miles to go before you reach your stated goals.  Good luck seeing through the mirages.</blockquote>

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