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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kerrick" data-source="post: 5043267" data-attributes="member: 4722">Wow. Easier just to split this into two posts, since it was too long with both replies crammed together.Yeah, I know... I'm probably just not communicating that very well. Like I said, I'm not very good at very high level (25+) design. I want to get away from the ELH method of "everything's bigger! And badder!"At some point during my design (well before I got to the legendary rules), scribbled down some notes on "tiers" and the expected breadth of the campaign:Of course, I never used the tier titles or even tiers as such - it was more of a guideline for design goals, like what kind of spells they'd be expected to have access to. All the plane-hopping spells, for instace, got bumped up a level or two to account for this.Shame, shame. You should know better. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Same here. Upper Krust, as I mentioned, is really one of the best epic designers out there. His mechanics are a little shaky at times, but his imagination and creativity are parallel to none.Vs. mortals, or vs. any being? UK's rules are similar, except that a being of equal or higher rank can bypass those immunities.What kind?That's a given. The <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/divineRanksAndPowers.htm" target="_blank">Divine SRD</a> lists all the powers granted at each rank, which gives a good basis for a system.Why halt AB at L20, but let the same modifier go to +12?Hahahaha. I like that. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> There isn't much else, really... I've already integrated all the feats and skill uses that were worthwhile, and the spell system is beyond salvaging. Oh, and the monsters - they were worth saving, though it required a bit of work in some cases.I thought about doing 10th level spells at L19, actually, since they would fit the progression, but I decided not to for some reason (I don't recall now). Some of the existing L9 spells like mass heal and wish got bumped to L10, so they'd still be around at pre-epic.</blockquote>

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