Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Pronouns in D&D - How should gender be handled?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Isida Kep'Tukari" data-source="post: 6216171" data-attributes="member: 4441"><p>As a female, I was rather chuffed to see female pronouns included the 3.0 D&D books. The books just alternated examples, sometimes using he in an example, sometimes using she, and that was totally fine.</p><p></p><p>Waiting for some kind of arbitrary body to adjudicate our language by the creation of some vague gender neutral pronoun means we could be waiting a long time. Languages shift naturally, with or without the guidance of some institution. </p><p></p><p>"He" may be the proper gender neutral compound in the English language right now, but those rules were also written during a time period when no one really gave two figs about using women in an example in literature. Why shouldn't we use "she" as often as "he" in writing examples when speaking generically? Because honestly, unless you're describing an exclusive gender activity (like childbirth, or describing certain things in a real-life historical or cultural manner), should it really matter what imaginary type of person is theoretically doing something? Why can't we imagine a woman doing these things?</p><p></p><p>Using "she" as a pronoun in examples sounds "unnatural" to many people because it's only relatively recently that people have made an effort to use it.</p><p></p><p>I also do not like the argument that, "Well, just imagine that a woman is doing this or that in the examples, even if it says he, because he is gender neutral." It's bothersome to me as a woman because we make up a significant portion of this hobby, and I do care about seeing examples of females right there in print. We are not some exotic, unnatural creature, and I think the familiarity that is granted by putting women more forward in print helps make our hobby both more accessible and more inclusive.</p><p></p><p>In short, boo to "gender neutral" he. Use both pronouns, because both men and women play.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Isida Kep'Tukari, post: 6216171, member: 4441"] As a female, I was rather chuffed to see female pronouns included the 3.0 D&D books. The books just alternated examples, sometimes using he in an example, sometimes using she, and that was totally fine. Waiting for some kind of arbitrary body to adjudicate our language by the creation of some vague gender neutral pronoun means we could be waiting a long time. Languages shift naturally, with or without the guidance of some institution. "He" may be the proper gender neutral compound in the English language right now, but those rules were also written during a time period when no one really gave two figs about using women in an example in literature. Why shouldn't we use "she" as often as "he" in writing examples when speaking generically? Because honestly, unless you're describing an exclusive gender activity (like childbirth, or describing certain things in a real-life historical or cultural manner), should it really matter what imaginary type of person is theoretically doing something? Why can't we imagine a woman doing these things? Using "she" as a pronoun in examples sounds "unnatural" to many people because it's only relatively recently that people have made an effort to use it. I also do not like the argument that, "Well, just imagine that a woman is doing this or that in the examples, even if it says he, because he is gender neutral." It's bothersome to me as a woman because we make up a significant portion of this hobby, and I do care about seeing examples of females right there in print. We are not some exotic, unnatural creature, and I think the familiarity that is granted by putting women more forward in print helps make our hobby both more accessible and more inclusive. In short, boo to "gender neutral" he. Use both pronouns, because both men and women play. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Pronouns in D&D - How should gender be handled?
Top