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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 6068171" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>Which just means there isn't a growing number of new player. Or that new players are holding steady while established players are googling less. Heck, or even that there's an increase of new players and established players' search habits are suffering an even sharper decline. </p><p>There's no way to be sure. </p><p></p><p>But for a humbling look at the hobby throw in a term like "Jersey Shore" or "Paris Hilton" and see what happens to the numbers. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Not so much. MtG is a huge cash cow and the reason WotC is owned by Hasbro. D&D may be recognised by more common people as a term, but Magic and the like have a much larger audience. </p><p></p><p>D&D is also much harder to sell people on. You need 2 people to play Magic, and it's easy to get a game going quickly with strangers. The introductory buy-in is small and the initial learning curve of the game is low. Mastery is hard but you can get a passable knowledge in minutes. </p><p>D&D takes three or four times the money, three times the people, and has a much steeper learning curve. It's much harder to sell people via online. </p><p>Plus, until recently WotC was doing a pretty terrible job of introducing new people to the hobby via their website. And even now it's really, really, really not the focus.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Likely higher than MtG with its competitive element. Although, with a good printer and once inside a sleeve it would be hard to tell a knock-off of a rarer card from a real one. </p><p></p><p>Still... if D&D was so easily pirated, wouldn't its player base be growing? </p><p>And people searching for pirated books would still trigger search engine results.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 6068171, member: 37579"] Which just means there isn't a growing number of new player. Or that new players are holding steady while established players are googling less. Heck, or even that there's an increase of new players and established players' search habits are suffering an even sharper decline. There's no way to be sure. But for a humbling look at the hobby throw in a term like "Jersey Shore" or "Paris Hilton" and see what happens to the numbers. Not so much. MtG is a huge cash cow and the reason WotC is owned by Hasbro. D&D may be recognised by more common people as a term, but Magic and the like have a much larger audience. D&D is also much harder to sell people on. You need 2 people to play Magic, and it's easy to get a game going quickly with strangers. The introductory buy-in is small and the initial learning curve of the game is low. Mastery is hard but you can get a passable knowledge in minutes. D&D takes three or four times the money, three times the people, and has a much steeper learning curve. It's much harder to sell people via online. Plus, until recently WotC was doing a pretty terrible job of introducing new people to the hobby via their website. And even now it's really, really, really not the focus. Likely higher than MtG with its competitive element. Although, with a good printer and once inside a sleeve it would be hard to tell a knock-off of a rarer card from a real one. Still... if D&D was so easily pirated, wouldn't its player base be growing? And people searching for pirated books would still trigger search engine results. [/QUOTE]
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