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<blockquote data-quote="DalkonCledwin" data-source="post: 5912591" data-attributes="member: 6680145"><p>I fail to see what in that history specifically excludes Aquatic Elves from being part of E'n. In fact logistically speaking the very fact that the history doesn't mention the existence of Aquatic Elves (or for that matter the existence of the Drow) could be said to be a further reason to allow them both specifically. It could also be argued as a reason to ignore them both, but either argument could be made depending on who is arguing it.</p><p></p><p>Fact remains that Aquatic Elves have traditionally been a part of Dungeons and Dragons for a rather long time, and they are specifically mentioned as existing in the world of Golarion, even if they aren't part of the Beastiary. In point of fact one of the alternate Racial Traits for Elves that is present in the Advanced Players Guide already puts Elves pretty darn close to being Aquatic Elves to begin with.</p><p></p><p><strong>Spirit of the Waters:</strong> Some elves have adapted to life in tune with the sea or along the reedy depths of wild rivers and lakes. They gain a +4 racial bonus on swim checks, can always take 10 while swimming, and may choose Aquan as a bonus language. They are proficient with longspear, trident, and net. This racial trait replaces <strong>elven magic and weapon familiarity</strong> racial Traits.</p><p></p><p>The only thing that this alternate racial trait doesn't do is grant the Elf in question the Aquan Sub-Type, or the Amphibious Trait. So if a character really wanted to play an Elf with an affinity for water they effectively could even without your say so I suppose. All I am suggesting is that we go ahead and approve Aquatic Elves for use for Dungeon Masters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DalkonCledwin, post: 5912591, member: 6680145"] I fail to see what in that history specifically excludes Aquatic Elves from being part of E'n. In fact logistically speaking the very fact that the history doesn't mention the existence of Aquatic Elves (or for that matter the existence of the Drow) could be said to be a further reason to allow them both specifically. It could also be argued as a reason to ignore them both, but either argument could be made depending on who is arguing it. Fact remains that Aquatic Elves have traditionally been a part of Dungeons and Dragons for a rather long time, and they are specifically mentioned as existing in the world of Golarion, even if they aren't part of the Beastiary. In point of fact one of the alternate Racial Traits for Elves that is present in the Advanced Players Guide already puts Elves pretty darn close to being Aquatic Elves to begin with. [B]Spirit of the Waters:[/B] Some elves have adapted to life in tune with the sea or along the reedy depths of wild rivers and lakes. They gain a +4 racial bonus on swim checks, can always take 10 while swimming, and may choose Aquan as a bonus language. They are proficient with longspear, trident, and net. This racial trait replaces [B]elven magic and weapon familiarity[/B] racial Traits. The only thing that this alternate racial trait doesn't do is grant the Elf in question the Aquan Sub-Type, or the Amphibious Trait. So if a character really wanted to play an Elf with an affinity for water they effectively could even without your say so I suppose. All I am suggesting is that we go ahead and approve Aquatic Elves for use for Dungeon Masters. [/QUOTE]
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