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<blockquote data-quote="GlassEye" data-source="post: 5912871" data-attributes="member: 40413">I don't think we need to explain the relationship between elves and an alternate racial trait by adding a race to the mix.You make a fair point about aquatic fey but I still don't think that it necessitates the existence of aquatic elves.&nbsp; I don't need an aquatic elf to introduce or otherwise use a nereid.&nbsp; Just like I don't need an aerial elf to use atomies.&nbsp; That is my point: we don't need them; other races can fill the civilized sea creature niche.&nbsp; (Please note that the balance/player use objection was never mine.)The whole 'cross-breed' issue is more a statement about human versatility than elven, I think.&nbsp; I've never liked the idea that just because two races are humanoid (or not, in some cases) that there should be a cross-breed race.&nbsp; I much prefer the idea of mistaken identity: &quot;Look! An aquatic elf!&quot;&nbsp; Well, no, it's actually a merfolk...If you want aquatic elves in the setting you would be much more likely to sway me with a well-written proposal that deals with how they fit into E'n (like the elf &amp; dwarf write-ups on the wiki or HM's recent Pell proposal) rather than saying we should have them because they exist in a monster book somewhere else.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GlassEye, post: 5912871, member: 40413"] I don't think we need to explain the relationship between elves and an alternate racial trait by adding a race to the mix. You make a fair point about aquatic fey but I still don't think that it necessitates the existence of aquatic elves. I don't need an aquatic elf to introduce or otherwise use a nereid. Just like I don't need an aerial elf to use atomies. [i]That[/i] is my point: we don't need them; other races can fill the civilized sea creature niche. (Please note that the balance/player use objection was never mine.) The whole 'cross-breed' issue is more a statement about human versatility than elven, I think. I've never liked the idea that just because two races are humanoid (or not, in some cases) that there should be a cross-breed race. I much prefer the idea of mistaken identity: "Look! An aquatic elf!" Well, no, it's actually a merfolk... If you want aquatic elves in the setting you would be much more likely to sway me with a well-written proposal that deals with how they fit into E'n (like the elf & dwarf write-ups on the wiki or HM's recent Pell proposal) rather than saying we should have them because they exist in a monster book somewhere else. [/QUOTE]

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