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<blockquote data-quote="elecgraystone" data-source="post: 5098835" data-attributes="member: 74232">Well I'm not saying we shouldn't add CB to the math section, just that we shouldn't scrap the math section and only have the CB. As far as GM's and the math sections, it seems to me if a GM thinks &quot;how did they do that&quot; or &quot;why is that bonus so high&quot; they shouldn't have to ask someone else to find out.&nbsp;I should mention that I found a mistake on my sheet when I leveled up to 5th that had been there since 1st. Nothing huge but it was there. Mistakes happen and the reviewers aren't perfect. The GM should have the option to check the math if they think something is off.&nbsp;So a GM or Judge shouldn't be able to check the math if they think something is off? Seems odd to me...&nbsp;As far as me seeing the math section, that'd be nice but not required to run things smoothly. If I was a GM I know I'd want to be able to look at the math section.&nbsp;Oh, the wiki templates suck, no question. I've been working with them for a while and I still don't want to use them. Part of the reason I waited so long to start up a second character was the fact that I didn't want to go thought the hassle of using them again. &nbsp;I'd be up for any suggestion that'd make the sheet easier to use/make. However dumping the math section IMO isn't the answer. It'd just make the sheet suck a little less while making the math unreadable to people that I think should be able to.&nbsp;I think Lady Law's suggestion holds more merit. If we could make the sheet just plain easier to use in every section, I think that would makes things better. If we just 'fix' the math section, they still have to work out wiki in the rest of the sheet. It isn't a sheet where you fill in the numbers and go from there and I think that's the turnoff. A slightly easier wiki page is still a wiki page and not a traditional sheet.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="elecgraystone, post: 5098835, member: 74232"] Well I'm not saying we shouldn't add CB to the math section, just that we shouldn't scrap the math section and only have the CB. As far as GM's and the math sections, it seems to me if a GM thinks "how did they do that" or "why is that bonus so high" they shouldn't have to ask someone else to find out. I should mention that I found a mistake on my sheet when I leveled up to 5th that had been there since 1st. Nothing huge but it was there. Mistakes happen and the reviewers aren't perfect. The GM should have the option to check the math if they think something is off. So a GM or Judge shouldn't be able to check the math if they think something is off? Seems odd to me... As far as me seeing the math section, that'd be nice but not required to run things smoothly. If I was a GM I know I'd want to be able to look at the math section. Oh, the wiki templates suck, no question. I've been working with them for a while and I still don't want to use them. Part of the reason I waited so long to start up a second character was the fact that I didn't want to go thought the hassle of using them again. I'd be up for any suggestion that'd make the sheet easier to use/make. However dumping the math section IMO isn't the answer. It'd just make the sheet suck a little less while making the math unreadable to people that I think should be able to. I think Lady Law's suggestion holds more merit. If we could make the sheet just plain easier to use in every section, I think that would makes things better. If we just 'fix' the math section, they still have to work out wiki in the rest of the sheet. It isn't a sheet where you fill in the numbers and go from there and I think that's the turnoff. A slightly easier wiki page is still a wiki page and not a traditional sheet. [/QUOTE]

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