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<blockquote data-quote="elecgraystone" data-source="post: 4977240" data-attributes="member: 74232">This is the same 'wrinkle' the flaming weapon has though. The power doesn't state implement OR weapons attacks. It only states damage dealt by the weapon is fire. It's stating the fact that you have to use the weapon NOT that you have to be using the weapon as a weapon and not an implement. It's to clear up that you can't hold a flaming dagger in one hands and cast a cold spell through your wand and get fire/cold damage.&nbsp;It is? If it were I don't think we'd be having this debate. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp;True but from my experience hitting isn't a big issue with rogues, it's getting combat advantage. This is even a bigger problem if you like to fight at range. As such the feat combo gives a HUGE advantage. While it's true you may miss sometimes the rewards are sweet and more than an equal to the feats/abilities you pointed out as potential problems for casters.&nbsp;At pre-paragon levels at best we're looking at a +1 hit and damage or the ability to negate 5 damage reduction[NOT extra damage] for casters. Doesn't seem like anything game breaking and/or overpowered.&nbsp;The only issue with this is WOTC has had plenty of time to clairify this and hasn't. They have had multiple threads on there own boards and they still have vague rulings and even those aren't in the errata. No matter what we rule, I don't think waiting for them to do something is a good idea.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="elecgraystone, post: 4977240, member: 74232"] This is the same 'wrinkle' the flaming weapon has though. The power doesn't state implement OR weapons attacks. It only states damage dealt by the weapon is fire. It's stating the fact that you have to use the weapon NOT that you have to be using the weapon as a weapon and not an implement. It's to clear up that you can't hold a flaming dagger in one hands and cast a cold spell through your wand and get fire/cold damage. It is? If it were I don't think we'd be having this debate. ;) True but from my experience hitting isn't a big issue with rogues, it's getting combat advantage. This is even a bigger problem if you like to fight at range. As such the feat combo gives a HUGE advantage. While it's true you may miss sometimes the rewards are sweet and more than an equal to the feats/abilities you pointed out as potential problems for casters. At pre-paragon levels at best we're looking at a +1 hit and damage or the ability to negate 5 damage reduction[NOT extra damage] for casters. Doesn't seem like anything game breaking and/or overpowered. The only issue with this is WOTC has had plenty of time to clairify this and hasn't. They have had multiple threads on there own boards and they still have vague rulings and even those aren't in the errata. No matter what we rule, I don't think waiting for them to do something is a good idea. [/QUOTE]

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