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<blockquote data-quote="JoeNotCharles" data-source="post: 4938957" data-attributes="member: 79945"><p>I thought about Taunting Visage some more, and it's a little bit more complicated:</p><p></p><p>If you're not using Sneak Attack, it gets you a +2 to hit, over and over again, at the cost of 2 minor actions (one to change shape to something else, and another to change shape back to your OoE target) - so once every two turns, or every turn if you don't move. Doing this over and over again is a bit cheesy, but I dunno if it's powerful enough to be worth restricting... (There are also magic weapons which have an extra bonus with CA to think about.)</p><p></p><p>If you're an Avenger multiclassed into Rogue, you only get Sneak Attack once per encounter anyway, so it's just like the above situation.</p><p></p><p>If you're a Rogue multiclassed into Avenger with Disciple of Divine Wrath, you only have an Oath of Enmity target for one turn, unless you luck out an one-shot it. But you have to spend your minor action to change shape on the same turn as you spend the minor action to set the OoE. So you can get one guaranteed Sneak Attack against every new OoE target, IF you don't have to move or you spend an action point. That seems fine (in fact, it seems very appropriate, so that's the main reason I wouldn't want to restrict this to once per encounter).</p><p></p><p>If you're a Rogue multiclassed into Avenger with Hero of the Faith, you can use this to get Sneak Attack once every second turn, or every turn if you don't move or spend an AP, which I think is too powerful - but I'm voting to ban Hero of the Faith anyway, so I don't need to worry about this.</p><p></p><p>So I think I'm gonna change my vote to YES on Taunting Visage as written - still thinking about it, though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JoeNotCharles, post: 4938957, member: 79945"] I thought about Taunting Visage some more, and it's a little bit more complicated: If you're not using Sneak Attack, it gets you a +2 to hit, over and over again, at the cost of 2 minor actions (one to change shape to something else, and another to change shape back to your OoE target) - so once every two turns, or every turn if you don't move. Doing this over and over again is a bit cheesy, but I dunno if it's powerful enough to be worth restricting... (There are also magic weapons which have an extra bonus with CA to think about.) If you're an Avenger multiclassed into Rogue, you only get Sneak Attack once per encounter anyway, so it's just like the above situation. If you're a Rogue multiclassed into Avenger with Disciple of Divine Wrath, you only have an Oath of Enmity target for one turn, unless you luck out an one-shot it. But you have to spend your minor action to change shape on the same turn as you spend the minor action to set the OoE. So you can get one guaranteed Sneak Attack against every new OoE target, IF you don't have to move or you spend an action point. That seems fine (in fact, it seems very appropriate, so that's the main reason I wouldn't want to restrict this to once per encounter). If you're a Rogue multiclassed into Avenger with Hero of the Faith, you can use this to get Sneak Attack once every second turn, or every turn if you don't move or spend an AP, which I think is too powerful - but I'm voting to ban Hero of the Faith anyway, so I don't need to worry about this. So I think I'm gonna change my vote to YES on Taunting Visage as written - still thinking about it, though. [/QUOTE]
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