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Message: <blockquote data-quote="elecgraystone" data-source="post: 4761136" data-attributes="member: 74232">And that's my point. Changing that wizards melee attack from a +2 hit 1d4-1 attack [8 strength with dagger] to a +7 1d8+4 attack [long sword 18 INT] is an awesome jump. From an attack that might not even kill a minion to a real at will power. Add to that the fact that lots of times the only thing the wizard is going to be able to hit is a single target [either smart non-clustering enimies, allies in the way and/or only 1 creature and that feat really does give an at will at least as useful as their burning hands in those encounters. Plus it's a big surprise when the bad guys try to stop the wizard from casting by boxing him into melee and he whips out a sword and starts going to town. When looking at what new feats give you, it's best to look at the people that get the most from them. You were looking at it as giving a character that is already a melee an OA. I'm looking at it as giving a NON-melee character a new at will that gives them an effective melee power. It's a far more powerful feat when you use it a non-melee. The problem with looking at it this way is that you are looking at it from a melee character perspective. For them, yes most times that basic attack is worse than their at wills. Not so for non-melee. LOL Again you look at it wrong. It's another at will they can now use. It doesn't have to be any more about a melee build than thunderwave. It's another option for combat. Even if 90% of the time you're at range, it give you options when melee is forced on you. Is wanting to be able to do something when you can't get out of melee a 'melee build' to you? it isn't for me. So for you any new feat has a requirement that it have synchronicity with some other power or class? Even if you have NO warlord, melee training gives non-melee characters and effective, useful and in my eyes a non-inferior at will. The warlord is just the icing on the cake.</blockquote>

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