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<blockquote data-quote="GnomeWorks" data-source="post: 1238422" data-attributes="member: 162">Good point, I forgot about that./me nods.Don't know about changing the range.&nbsp; As you can see from the examples above, most Blue spells have a Close range and S component... so I'm a little leary (sp?) of changing it to Medium, even if it would be balanced.&nbsp; Conjuration sounds like it would fit.You do have a point in that it is a little powerful.&nbsp; However, do note that they only get a d6 HD... admittedly, they could multiclass with Barbarian or something... it should probably be third or fourth.Also note that conversion, while helpful, does not eliminate the damage entirely.&nbsp; And once out of MP...As for the metagaming - there is going to be some of that.&nbsp; There are, IIRC, three spells that deal directly with the blue mage's HP, and a few that deal with a target's HP or MP.&nbsp; I don't think they're too bad, meta-gaming wise, and if you take Peep and Scan into account... I don't think it's so meta-gamey as to be worrisome.Necromancy sounds like a good fit.I admit that I'm not too good in determining what should allow SR and what shouldn't.&nbsp; My base premise was that anything that allowed a saving throw didn't allow SR, and vice-versa.&nbsp; There are a few exceptions, IIRC, but overall most allowed saving throws, so very few have SR.Transmutation fits.Sorry, description kind of got in the way there.&nbsp; I'd prefer to keep it doing 1/2 HP, so Necro fits.Hmm... name of the spell almost implies a cone or emanation effect, rather than single target.&nbsp; If it affected a number of creatures equal to half the learner's level, would that be more balanced with it's current level?SR - it allows a save.&nbsp; Should both be allowed?Transmutation definitely fits.Alright... hmm.&nbsp; Change the name to Petrifying Gaze (ie, basilisk), and change mechanically to fit Flesh to Stone; though it would be gaze-based.Again, it allows a save, so I don't know about SR.Transmutation fits.Yep, will do.&nbsp; Sorry about the wait...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GnomeWorks, post: 1238422, member: 162"] Good point, I forgot about that. /me nods. Don't know about changing the range. As you can see from the examples above, most Blue spells have a Close range and S component... so I'm a little leary (sp?) of changing it to Medium, even if it would be balanced. Conjuration sounds like it would fit. You do have a point in that it is a little powerful. However, do note that they only get a d6 HD... admittedly, they could multiclass with Barbarian or something... it should probably be third or fourth. Also note that conversion, while helpful, does not eliminate the damage entirely. And once out of MP... As for the metagaming - there is going to be some of that. There are, IIRC, three spells that deal directly with the blue mage's HP, and a few that deal with a target's HP or MP. I don't think they're too bad, meta-gaming wise, and if you take Peep and Scan into account... I don't think it's so meta-gamey as to be worrisome. Necromancy sounds like a good fit. I admit that I'm not too good in determining what should allow SR and what shouldn't. My base premise was that anything that allowed a saving throw didn't allow SR, and vice-versa. There are a few exceptions, IIRC, but overall most allowed saving throws, so very few have SR. Transmutation fits. Sorry, description kind of got in the way there. I'd prefer to keep it doing 1/2 HP, so Necro fits. Hmm... name of the spell almost implies a cone or emanation effect, rather than single target. If it affected a number of creatures equal to half the learner's level, would that be more balanced with it's current level? SR - it allows a save. Should both be allowed? Transmutation definitely fits. Alright... hmm. Change the name to Petrifying Gaze (ie, basilisk), and change mechanically to fit Flesh to Stone; though it would be gaze-based. Again, it allows a save, so I don't know about SR. Transmutation fits. Yep, will do. Sorry about the wait... [/QUOTE]

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