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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5729022" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>It also exceeds the normal carrying capacity of most PCs.</p><p></p><p>I do think that a player who takes a Goliath or any other extremely large PC should have difficulties. For example, I sometimes make the DC of breaking through a weak floor area of a dungeon dependent on how much weight is actually being put on it.</p><p></p><p>In the case of mounts, mounts have advantages:</p><p></p><p>1) Speed.</p><p>2) Unusual movement (like flight).</p><p>3) They can sometimes fight or have other benefits.</p><p></p><p>So, I have no problem with mounts having downsides to them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't like the concept of blowing carrying capacity off completely, just for simplicity sake.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The actual equation is a bit hidden. It seems to be str related, but not totally consistent. Changing the equation to 10 * Str * size category (i.e. *1 for medium, *1.5 for large, *2 for huge, etc.) would give reasonable capacity:</p><p></p><p>[code]</p><p>Blade spider 300 250</p><p>Camel 285 237</p><p>Dire boar 285 237</p><p>Elephant 500 312</p><p>Giant ant 285 237</p><p>Giant lizard, draft 285 237</p><p>Giant lizard, riding 300 250</p><p>Griffon 300 250</p><p>Griffon, rimefire 360 300</p><p>Hippogriff 285 237</p><p>Hippogriff dreadmount 315 262</p><p>Horse, celestial charger 345 287</p><p>Horse, riding 285 237</p><p>Horse, sea 270 225</p><p>Horse, skeletal 300 250</p><p>Horse, warhorse 315 262</p><p>Manticore 315 262</p><p>Nightmare 345 287</p><p>Rage drake 285 237</p><p>Rhinoceros 315 262</p><p>Shark, dire 180 210</p><p>Shark, riding 285 190</p><p>Trihorn behemoth 520 325</p><p>Wolf, dire 285 237</p><p>Wyvern 360 300</p><p>[/code]</p><p></p><p>The first number is the revised number, the second number is the original.</p><p></p><p>This forces a heavily armored Goliath to use a huge creature in order to not encumber it. I don't find that unreasonable. But, a lightly armored or unarmored Goliath of some type could easily get on some types of large creatures, especially with a bag of holding or some such.</p><p></p><p>For all intents and purposes, Goliaths are supposed to be Giants. Small ones, but giants nonetheless. It's not unreasonable for them to have to find the largest possible mounts because they are 50% heavier than most other medium sized creatures.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5729022, member: 2011"] It also exceeds the normal carrying capacity of most PCs. I do think that a player who takes a Goliath or any other extremely large PC should have difficulties. For example, I sometimes make the DC of breaking through a weak floor area of a dungeon dependent on how much weight is actually being put on it. In the case of mounts, mounts have advantages: 1) Speed. 2) Unusual movement (like flight). 3) They can sometimes fight or have other benefits. So, I have no problem with mounts having downsides to them. I don't like the concept of blowing carrying capacity off completely, just for simplicity sake. The actual equation is a bit hidden. It seems to be str related, but not totally consistent. Changing the equation to 10 * Str * size category (i.e. *1 for medium, *1.5 for large, *2 for huge, etc.) would give reasonable capacity: [code] Blade spider 300 250 Camel 285 237 Dire boar 285 237 Elephant 500 312 Giant ant 285 237 Giant lizard, draft 285 237 Giant lizard, riding 300 250 Griffon 300 250 Griffon, rimefire 360 300 Hippogriff 285 237 Hippogriff dreadmount 315 262 Horse, celestial charger 345 287 Horse, riding 285 237 Horse, sea 270 225 Horse, skeletal 300 250 Horse, warhorse 315 262 Manticore 315 262 Nightmare 345 287 Rage drake 285 237 Rhinoceros 315 262 Shark, dire 180 210 Shark, riding 285 190 Trihorn behemoth 520 325 Wolf, dire 285 237 Wyvern 360 300 [/code] The first number is the revised number, the second number is the original. This forces a heavily armored Goliath to use a huge creature in order to not encumber it. I don't find that unreasonable. But, a lightly armored or unarmored Goliath of some type could easily get on some types of large creatures, especially with a bag of holding or some such. For all intents and purposes, Goliaths are supposed to be Giants. Small ones, but giants nonetheless. It's not unreasonable for them to have to find the largest possible mounts because they are 50% heavier than most other medium sized creatures. [/QUOTE]
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