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<blockquote data-quote="TwoHeadsBarking" data-source="post: 4866570" data-attributes="member: 82251">Strength of Valor is a bard feat from the PHB2 that works as follows:When you grant an ally the temp hp from your Virtue of Valor, that ally gains +2 to the next damage roll they make before the end of your next turn.Ok, fine, except Virtue of Valor grants temp hp as a result of your ally bloodying/killing an enemy.&nbsp; Which means it most likely will happen during their turn, after their attack.&nbsp; So here's how it's usually going to work in practice:Ally's turn: Ally uses their standard action to bloody an enemy, bard gives temp hp and +2 damage.&nbsp; Ally's turn ends.Bard's turn: Bard does stuff.&nbsp; Bard's turn ends, +2 damage from Strength of Valor goes away.Ally's turn: Whoops!&nbsp; No more bonus damage.&nbsp; What a good use of a feat.It is possible to actually use the +2 damage, with action points, multi-attack powers, AoEs, immediate reactions/interrupts, etc.&nbsp; But I can't believe this is how the power is supposed to work.&nbsp; So I propose that it be changed from &quot;the end of your next turn&quot; to &quot;the end of your ally's next turn&quot;.In case anyone's curious, we have a proposed bard who has this feat, and I rather not include in my feedback &quot;this feat sucks and you should change it&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TwoHeadsBarking, post: 4866570, member: 82251"] Strength of Valor is a bard feat from the PHB2 that works as follows: When you grant an ally the temp hp from your Virtue of Valor, that ally gains +2 to the next damage roll they make before the end of your next turn. Ok, fine, except Virtue of Valor grants temp hp as a result of your ally bloodying/killing an enemy. Which means it most likely will happen during their turn, after their attack. So here's how it's usually going to work in practice: Ally's turn: Ally uses their standard action to bloody an enemy, bard gives temp hp and +2 damage. Ally's turn ends. Bard's turn: Bard does stuff. Bard's turn ends, +2 damage from Strength of Valor goes away. Ally's turn: Whoops! No more bonus damage. What a good use of a feat. It is possible to actually use the +2 damage, with action points, multi-attack powers, AoEs, immediate reactions/interrupts, etc. But I can't believe this is how the power is supposed to work. So I propose that it be changed from "the end of [I]your[/I] next turn" to "the end of your [I]ally's[/I] next turn". In case anyone's curious, we have a proposed bard who has this feat, and I rather not include in my feedback "this feat sucks and you should change it". [/QUOTE]

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