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<blockquote data-quote="stonegod" data-source="post: 5199369" data-attributes="member: 36973">Thanks for the feedback. As I said, I'm willing to tweak for balance reasons. For those that disagree about using the proposal system this way, that is fine too, but I think we should discuss that more in depth in another thread and keep this focused on the item. THB, feel free to vote no based upon your desire not to use the system this way if you wish (though, I will point out, like r1, that the system is designed to do this as well).As for THB's other points in his last post: I see them as well. The crit use a Swrodmage gets its earlier than they would from jagged (which works w/ implement powers last I checked) so that's another point against it (though it does require a feat that isn't optimal for them otherwise). I wonder what the balance would be if we just introduced a mace-as-implement feat for artificer powers only (an analog to crossbow caster). Would solve the other issues (even for hybrids).At this point, it doesn't look likely to pass, modified or not, unless Kalidrev chimes in.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="stonegod, post: 5199369, member: 36973"] Thanks for the feedback. As I said, I'm willing to tweak for balance reasons. For those that disagree about using the proposal system this way, that is fine too, but I think we should discuss that more in depth in another thread and keep this focused on the item. THB, feel free to vote no based upon your desire not to use the system this way if you wish (though, I will point out, like r1, that the system is designed to do this as well). As for THB's other points in his last post: I see them as well. The crit use a Swrodmage gets its earlier than they would from jagged (which works w/ implement powers last I checked) so that's another point against it (though it does require a feat that isn't optimal for them otherwise). I wonder what the balance would be if we just introduced a mace-as-implement feat for artificer powers only (an analog to crossbow caster). Would solve the other issues (even for hybrids). At this point, it doesn't look likely to pass, modified or not, unless Kalidrev chimes in. [/QUOTE]

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