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<blockquote data-quote="covaithe" data-source="post: 5857962" data-attributes="member: 46559">Yeah.&nbsp; I dunno.&nbsp; I've retired characters before, but when I did I used DM points to bump them up just over a level threshold before, so I didn't lose much XP.&nbsp; I suspect that a reasonably large fraction of retirements have used similar tricks...&nbsp; which I find to be kind of not fair.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm not really cool with DMs having a loophole to dodge the retirement xp penalty, and other players not having that option.&nbsp; On the other hand, I do think that encouraging character continuity is good, and that there ought to be some kind of negative consequence to retiring/dying.&nbsp; What about a percentage penalty?&nbsp; Something like, 25% of what it would take to go from your current level to your next level?&nbsp; So if you retired at level 1, you'd lose 250xp.&nbsp; If level 2, you'd lose .25 * (2250-1000) = 312 xp.&nbsp; If level 15, you'd lose .25 * (69000-57000) = 3000 xp.&nbsp; That kind of penalty might cause you to lose a level.&nbsp; Is that okay?&nbsp; Note that we're talking about retiring here anyway, so the character reviewers have to review a new character either way; level loss doesn't affect their workload any.&nbsp; It's not obvious to me one way or another whether DM points can be abused under this proposal.&nbsp; I *think* it's less subject to abuse, but I'm not completely sure.&nbsp; As usual, I pulled the 25% number out of my backside just to have a number to talk about.&nbsp; I'm open to other percentages.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="covaithe, post: 5857962, member: 46559"] Yeah. I dunno. I've retired characters before, but when I did I used DM points to bump them up just over a level threshold before, so I didn't lose much XP. I suspect that a reasonably large fraction of retirements have used similar tricks... which I find to be kind of not fair. I'm not really cool with DMs having a loophole to dodge the retirement xp penalty, and other players not having that option. On the other hand, I do think that encouraging character continuity is good, and that there ought to be some kind of negative consequence to retiring/dying. What about a percentage penalty? Something like, 25% of what it would take to go from your current level to your next level? So if you retired at level 1, you'd lose 250xp. If level 2, you'd lose .25 * (2250-1000) = 312 xp. If level 15, you'd lose .25 * (69000-57000) = 3000 xp. That kind of penalty might cause you to lose a level. Is that okay? Note that we're talking about retiring here anyway, so the character reviewers have to review a new character either way; level loss doesn't affect their workload any. It's not obvious to me one way or another whether DM points can be abused under this proposal. I *think* it's less subject to abuse, but I'm not completely sure. As usual, I pulled the 25% number out of my backside just to have a number to talk about. I'm open to other percentages. [/QUOTE]

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