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<blockquote data-quote="Oni" data-source="post: 4804003" data-attributes="member: 380">When you've got a shared setting like this you do need some rule consensus outside DM logic IMO, because you want consistency across the board.&nbsp; For instance as written the Earthroot Staff does apply to sleep which is a major offender as far as lockdown spells go.&nbsp; You might say it's not in the spirit of what's intended or poor logic to allow it, but that is the way it is written.&nbsp; Also even if you cannot achieve true lock down, if your put up such a large penalty that the BBEG can only escape a small percentage of the time you've busted the encounter.&nbsp; If a DM is having to specifically build encounters or alter encounters on account of one character there is an issue, this is the reason the Battlerager got whacked with the nerf bat.&nbsp; Also keep in mind L4W is 25 point buy, so you could go with a Deva or Elf and hit a 16,17,12,12,10,8 stat spread before stat bumps and with racials not sweat accuracy really.&nbsp; The 25 point buy may have been a poor choice in hindsight because so much of what you can do is based around your stat spread, and it takes away some harder decisions (on the other hand I probably wouldn't have made Magnus if it weren't 25 point buy so I won't complain too much)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oni, post: 4804003, member: 380"] When you've got a shared setting like this you do need some rule consensus outside DM logic IMO, because you want consistency across the board. For instance as written the Earthroot Staff does apply to sleep which is a major offender as far as lockdown spells go. You might say it's not in the spirit of what's intended or poor logic to allow it, but that is the way it is written. Also even if you cannot achieve true lock down, if your put up such a large penalty that the BBEG can only escape a small percentage of the time you've busted the encounter. If a DM is having to specifically build encounters or alter encounters on account of one character there is an issue, this is the reason the Battlerager got whacked with the nerf bat. Also keep in mind L4W is 25 point buy, so you could go with a Deva or Elf and hit a 16,17,12,12,10,8 stat spread before stat bumps and with racials not sweat accuracy really. The 25 point buy may have been a poor choice in hindsight because so much of what you can do is based around your stat spread, and it takes away some harder decisions (on the other hand I probably wouldn't have made Magnus if it weren't 25 point buy so I won't complain too much) [/QUOTE]

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