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<blockquote data-quote="elecgraystone" data-source="post: 4860255" data-attributes="member: 74232">LOL That's OK. That's one of the reasons I was thinking that all double weapons were a no-no. Spiked Chain Training seemed to pass without a hitch...&nbsp;No problems there either. Just throwing out ideas. I'm actually ok with how they work now other than the fact they are limited to martial classes. Seems pretty lame that other weapon based characters can't learn them. Why is my swordmage, that knows all weapons martial and under, less able to learn them than a rogue with a limited weapon selection? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/worried.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":-S" title="Uhm&nbsp; &nbsp; :-S" data-shortname=":-S" />&nbsp;Nope! Everything says 'add'. Try not to bring real life into a D&amp;D game on what's realistic though. As stated above, in what world is a blowgun a d4 high crit weapon? I DOES make twin whips pretty useless though...&nbsp;No they aren't. They are multiclass feats. Pick up any of the books with feats in them and you'll see NO multiclass feats listed in the heroic sections; they have their own section in the book for a reason.&nbsp;I'm sorry KenHood, but you want to have your cake and eat it too. The feats ,as is, are stronger than your normal feats JUST like the other multiclass feats are [a skill AND an encounter power]. As such, you might as well propose dropping the multiclass tag all together since they are just 'normal heroic feats'. It makes as much sense.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="elecgraystone, post: 4860255, member: 74232"] LOL That's OK. That's one of the reasons I was thinking that all double weapons were a no-no. Spiked Chain Training seemed to pass without a hitch... No problems there either. Just throwing out ideas. I'm actually ok with how they work now other than the fact they are limited to martial classes. Seems pretty lame that other weapon based characters can't learn them. Why is my swordmage, that knows all weapons martial and under, less able to learn them than a rogue with a limited weapon selection? :-S Nope! Everything says 'add'. Try not to bring real life into a D&D game on what's realistic though. As stated above, in what world is a blowgun a d4 high crit weapon? I DOES make twin whips pretty useless though... No they aren't. They are multiclass feats. Pick up any of the books with feats in them and you'll see NO multiclass feats listed in the heroic sections; they have their own section in the book for a reason. I'm sorry KenHood, but you want to have your cake and eat it too. The feats ,as is, are stronger than your normal feats JUST like the other multiclass feats are [a skill AND an encounter power]. As such, you might as well propose dropping the multiclass tag all together since they are just 'normal heroic feats'. It makes as much sense. [/QUOTE]

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