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<blockquote data-quote="mattdm" data-source="post: 4282961" data-attributes="member: 15382">So, having DMed my first actual 4E session, I've got to say it really did feel like playing 4th or 5th level in 3E. Meanwhile, one of the players in our group notes that the epic tier powers seem very restricted and not near godlike at all. That's not necessarily a bad thing from my point of view — I've always enjoyed levels 6-14 or so of 3/3.5E the best, and it seems like 3E basically takes those levels (maybe plus two or three on either side) and spreads them over thirty.But I know people who really enjoy the low level stuff, and people who like the existing epic rules (at least well enough to enjoy playing 'em). This suggests to me that there's room for a 30+ &quot;deific&quot; tier — not necessarily as core rules or even from WotC, and maybe with a decided focus away from combat and into really epic rituals. And likewise, rather than just having a level zero, there may be room for an entire &quot;potentials&quot; tier — starting at an array of 11,11,10,10,10,8 and buying up from there, with no class abilities and only some of your racial ones....</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mattdm, post: 4282961, member: 15382"] So, having DMed my first actual 4E session, I've got to say it really did feel like playing 4th or 5th level in 3E. Meanwhile, one of the players in our group notes that the epic tier powers seem very restricted and not near godlike at all. That's not necessarily a bad thing from my point of view — I've always enjoyed levels 6-14 or so of 3/3.5E the best, and it seems like 3E basically takes those levels (maybe plus two or three on either side) and spreads them over thirty. But I know people who really enjoy the low level stuff, and people who like the existing epic rules (at least well enough to enjoy playing 'em). This suggests to me that there's room for a 30+ "deific" tier — not necessarily as core rules or even from WotC, and maybe with a decided focus away from combat and into [I]really[/I] epic rituals. And likewise, rather than just having a level zero, there may be room for an entire "potentials" tier — starting at an array of 11,11,10,10,10,8 and buying up from there, with no class abilities and only some of your racial ones.... [/QUOTE]

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