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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 4448952" data-attributes="member: 19675">First (in the interest of full disclosure) let me restate what most people probably know about me- I don't see multiclassing's effect on spellcasters to be a problem, but rather as a feature.That said:I think that's rather clever.&nbsp; Even with my personal opinion above, I could see that as an acceptable rule: the penalty remains, but is reduced, and it has a mirrored symmetry with the main feature of the warrior classes.However, since spells still increase damage with caster levels, that means spellslingers- even multiclassed- quickly outstrip the warriors in &quot;importance.&quot;&nbsp; In fact with this rule, multiclassed spellcasters now do it even faster, since even their non-caster class levels contribute to the power of the spells they cast.I don't like this- its too easy to abuse and I don't like the flavor.&nbsp; I don't like the idea of a PC who is a marginal caster in one hand suddenly improving because of multiclassing in another spellcaster class which uses a different stat.If I allowed this in my campaign, it would be at the cost of a Feat or a power of a specific PrCl.I don't particularly care for this in Wis or Int based casters.&nbsp; I don't generally have a problem with this for Cha based casters.Class level.Ideally, this would differ from god to god, not merely between pos/neg energy, and as such, would be broader than being limited to heals or harms.&nbsp;&nbsp; A cleric of a nature deity might Spontaneously channel like a Druid...Perhaps they'd be based on Domains...Of course, that would mean certain kinds of spell types would have to have their lists fleshed out.&nbsp; A lot.&nbsp;I liked Green Ronin's take on Holy Warriors in Book of the Righteous, and something similar could work here.&nbsp; Essentially, Paladins would get only Domain spells, plus a few powers (and if you're really tweeking things, variant auras as well).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 4448952, member: 19675"] First (in the interest of full disclosure) let me restate what most people probably know about me- I don't see multiclassing's effect on spellcasters to be a problem, but rather as a feature. That said: I think that's rather clever. Even with my personal opinion above, I could see that as an acceptable rule: the penalty remains, but is reduced, and it has a mirrored symmetry with the main feature of the warrior classes. However, since spells still increase damage with caster levels, that means spellslingers- even multiclassed- quickly outstrip the warriors in "importance." In fact with this rule, multiclassed spellcasters now do it even faster, since even their non-caster class levels contribute to the power of the spells they cast. I don't like this- its too easy to abuse and I don't like the flavor. I don't like the idea of a PC who is a marginal caster in one hand suddenly improving because of multiclassing in another spellcaster class which uses a different stat. If I allowed this in my campaign, it would be at the cost of a Feat or a power of a specific PrCl. I don't particularly care for this in Wis or Int based casters. I don't generally have a problem with this for Cha based casters. Class level. Ideally, this would differ from god to god, not merely between pos/neg energy, and as such, would be broader than being limited to heals or harms. A cleric of a nature deity might Spontaneously channel like a Druid... Perhaps they'd be based on Domains... Of course, that would mean certain kinds of spell types would have to have their lists fleshed out. A [I]lot.[/I] I liked Green Ronin's take on Holy Warriors in Book of the Righteous, and something similar could work here. Essentially, Paladins would get only Domain spells, plus a few powers (and if you're really tweeking things, variant auras as well). [/QUOTE]

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