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<blockquote data-quote="Wulf Ratbane" data-source="post: 4621814" data-attributes="member: 94">When the Fighter takes those two levels of Cleric makes all the difference.If he takes them early, he sets himself back from the rest of the melee classes in terms of iterative attacks, and he may also be setting himself back 1-3 levels in terms of picking up the feats he needs to complete a certain feat chain. (The same hold true for Rogue builds.)If an 18th level Fighter chooses to pick up two levels of Cleric at the end of his career, the ability to cast 2nd (or even 4th) level spells is going to be a small fraction of his total CR at 20th level. (It's about 1/3 of 1 CR.)I will happily concede that Trailblazer is not designed for play that begins at 20th level and ignores twenty prior levels of character development and meaningful choices along the way.Not really. The concession was easier to make than the argument.EDIT: I apologize for my earlier snarkiness. Teasing this argument out of me is certainly worthwhile.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wulf Ratbane, post: 4621814, member: 94"] [B][I]When [/I][/B]the Fighter takes those two levels of Cleric makes all the difference. If he takes them early, he sets himself back from the rest of the melee classes in terms of iterative attacks, and he may also be setting himself back 1-3 levels in terms of picking up the feats he needs to complete a certain feat chain. (The same hold true for Rogue builds.) If an 18th level Fighter chooses to pick up two levels of Cleric at the end of his career, the ability to cast 2nd (or even 4th) level spells is going to be a small fraction of his total CR at 20th level. (It's about 1/3 of 1 CR.) I will happily concede that Trailblazer is not designed for play that begins at 20th level and ignores twenty prior levels of character development and meaningful choices along the way. Not really. The concession was easier to make than the argument. EDIT: I apologize for my earlier snarkiness. Teasing this argument out of me is certainly worthwhile. [/QUOTE]

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