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<blockquote data-quote="Tallifer" data-source="post: 5796765" data-attributes="member: 84661"><p>I first played D&D in the 1980s. Left it as time passed. Played soem other games. Life moved on and gaming sort of disappeared from my life and surroundings.</p><p></p><p>Then I randomly Googled an old friend and found out that he was writing a popular Old School blog. Old School Renaissance, what's this? I thought there was just AD&D? So I looked up more and found out that I had missed out on 2nd edition, 3rd edition and lo and behold there is a 4th edition.</p><p></p><p>Checked out this new edition. Wow! This is exciting stuff. D&D looks good. Easy to understand the new rules: no need to learn a bazillion new things for each class and race: everything fits and follows. Learned the system in a weekend.</p><p></p><p>Then I discover that lots of old players hate it. Weird. "Not D&D." Now that's just telling lies your mama taught you not to: because I have played a lot of systems and 1st and 4th edition D&D are certainly a lot more related to each other than to any of those other games. Hit points, classes, mediaeval fantasy, fireballs, +1 swords, et cetera.</p><p></p><p>But after a couple of years of reading complaints and trolls, I was starting to get a little convinced.</p><p></p><p>Until I started playing Pathfinder. Yes, Pathfinder is good too. Yes, it is D&D too. And guess what, it feels very similar to 4th edition. In fact it was quite easy to learn, even though I had never played 3rd, because the same rules were present in 4th, just under different names or with some variation.</p><p></p><p>Tactical combat on a grid with miniatures. Precise distances and areas of effects. Several conditions to keep track of on different timers. Easy healing, resilient characters, attacks of opportunity and immediate reactions. Point bought abilities. Similar monsters: artillery, brutes, soldiers, controllers. The party has a defender/striker, a leader, a leader/defender and a controller. As I play more in this enjoyable Pathfinder campaign, I am sure I will find even more similarities.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tallifer, post: 5796765, member: 84661"] I first played D&D in the 1980s. Left it as time passed. Played soem other games. Life moved on and gaming sort of disappeared from my life and surroundings. Then I randomly Googled an old friend and found out that he was writing a popular Old School blog. Old School Renaissance, what's this? I thought there was just AD&D? So I looked up more and found out that I had missed out on 2nd edition, 3rd edition and lo and behold there is a 4th edition. Checked out this new edition. Wow! This is exciting stuff. D&D looks good. Easy to understand the new rules: no need to learn a bazillion new things for each class and race: everything fits and follows. Learned the system in a weekend. Then I discover that lots of old players hate it. Weird. "Not D&D." Now that's just telling lies your mama taught you not to: because I have played a lot of systems and 1st and 4th edition D&D are certainly a lot more related to each other than to any of those other games. Hit points, classes, mediaeval fantasy, fireballs, +1 swords, et cetera. But after a couple of years of reading complaints and trolls, I was starting to get a little convinced. Until I started playing Pathfinder. Yes, Pathfinder is good too. Yes, it is D&D too. And guess what, it feels very similar to 4th edition. In fact it was quite easy to learn, even though I had never played 3rd, because the same rules were present in 4th, just under different names or with some variation. Tactical combat on a grid with miniatures. Precise distances and areas of effects. Several conditions to keep track of on different timers. Easy healing, resilient characters, attacks of opportunity and immediate reactions. Point bought abilities. Similar monsters: artillery, brutes, soldiers, controllers. The party has a defender/striker, a leader, a leader/defender and a controller. As I play more in this enjoyable Pathfinder campaign, I am sure I will find even more similarities. [/QUOTE]
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