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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 1058908" data-attributes="member: 725">Although your idea has merrit your arguments do not.1.) Just because it's in PDF (or any other electronic format) doesn't mean the publisher has to make available free updates,  it can be done, but it isn't always so.2.) Poor quality due to ease of publication? Yeah right! Ever seen any of the of Malhavoc Press PDFs? These are exactly their printed products.3.) Lack of seriousness With a statement like this, not very many people are going to take you seriously. Yes, there are many people who make a PDF just for the heck of it, but so are some publishers (i'll not name any companies).4.) Lack of willingness to dedicate resources? Again i point you to the Malhavoc Press PDFs, but i think what you should say is lack of money to dedicate to resources. Most of the PDF publishers lack Monte's resources (and success in selling PDFs), that means they just don't have as many recources as they would want to use.Are there Pros and Cons? Hell yeah, but they all depend on your point of view.I like it a lot that i can search a couple of hundred books (all the ESDs from WotC) with just a few key strokes.I like it a lot that i can check a couple of hundred books just about anywhere i take my laptop to, or more recently, where i can take my pda to.I like it a lot that i can select small parts of the text and copy it into whatever document i choose, without having to scan one or more pages and OCR them.I like it a lot that i can easily create player handouts from whatever PDF i have, without having to lend the entire book to one or all of my players and possibly expose them to material i didn't want them to read.I like it a lot that after having worked hard all day and coming home when all the stores have already closed that i can order and download a product in just a few minutes (gotta love my high bandwith connection).I don't like it a lot that reading it on a vertical screen isn't very comfortable.I have to start up one of my computers to look at a PDF, instead of picking it from one of my many bookshelves.Printing it at home could be very expensive, i on the other hand (like a lot of folks), have access to laser printers at work. Most people only have access to B&W letter sized laser printers, i'm one of those lucky few that has access to a high quality A3 color laser printer that makes the most awesome prints! When i really want to print a pdf, i run it trough a couple of my programs so that it'll print correctly on A3 and is doublesided. I just fold the pages correctly and the guys that 'control'  the printer are always willing to help to help me bind the 'book'. So printing isn't really a big problem for me ;-)I still prefer to buy the book from the publisher though, but i'm in a luxury position there as well, i buy my game books at wholesale prices.But books take up a lot more space than a couple of MBs, and in my room, space i something i don't have a lot of... See how suddenly i have a lot of Pros and don't have a lot of Cons. These are things that are important and re4levant to me, but obviously not to some others. Yes i'm pro PDF but am realistic enough that it's not the end all and be all for gaming products, some people find them usefull and others don't. It's all about target adience...</blockquote>

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