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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4859611" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Heh, I've already tapped him once in this thread. Methinks someone's going to be raking it in here. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>As a side note, I have to admit that when I saw the title of this thread, and saw that Piratecat had made the last post, the last thing I was expecting when I started reading was such a well balanced and incredibly well mannered discussion of the edition.</p><p></p><p>You guys are all AWESOME.</p><p></p><p>As to the difference that I see in 4e from 3e, one thing that should be mentioned is transparency. 4e strives, to a degree even greater than 3e that all game elements be as transparent as possible to the DM or the players. You generally know exactly why something does what it does and you can probably compare it to five or six different, but similar things that do pretty much the same thing.</p><p></p><p>I find that it really puts the DM in a position of being able to act from greater confidence. The DM should know, or at least can make a very educated guess as to whether an idea or an effect should be allowed or not. There's just so many points of comparison to work from.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 4859611, member: 22779"] Heh, I've already tapped him once in this thread. Methinks someone's going to be raking it in here. :) As a side note, I have to admit that when I saw the title of this thread, and saw that Piratecat had made the last post, the last thing I was expecting when I started reading was such a well balanced and incredibly well mannered discussion of the edition. You guys are all AWESOME. As to the difference that I see in 4e from 3e, one thing that should be mentioned is transparency. 4e strives, to a degree even greater than 3e that all game elements be as transparent as possible to the DM or the players. You generally know exactly why something does what it does and you can probably compare it to five or six different, but similar things that do pretty much the same thing. I find that it really puts the DM in a position of being able to act from greater confidence. The DM should know, or at least can make a very educated guess as to whether an idea or an effect should be allowed or not. There's just so many points of comparison to work from. [/QUOTE]
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