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<blockquote data-quote="Nimble Goodbarrel" data-source="post: 4861760" data-attributes="member: 82770">Again thanks to everyone.&nbsp; With the Pro's and Con's (and the fact the books went on sale near me) I went out and bought the core 4e books and have begun reading them and highlighting the cool parts over the phone to my players.&nbsp; The reaction has been mixed.&nbsp; One player seems really excited, the other continues to be arguementative and doubtful.&nbsp;The doubtful player, sees the new edition as dumbed down.&nbsp; He does not like the fact that magic has been greatly reduced in shear amount of spells.&nbsp; My arguement was in the 15 years of playing D&amp;D we have only used spells like 'Grease' twice.&nbsp; So the spells that have been kept are simple, easy to use and the once we typically throw at monsters.&nbsp; &nbsp;I think that he see's this as the end of his 3e campaigne, which I told him wasn't truem that we could keep playing his game as long as he wanted.&nbsp; &nbsp;Over all I am sure that I have made the right decision.&nbsp; I haven't been this excited aobut playing D&amp;D in almost 8 years.&nbsp; This new version really seems like I will be able to spend more time on NPC's, what is going on in the world, and other cool story elements that I really couldn't spend time on in 3e.&nbsp; I spent most of my time trying to plan out what the monsters would do each round to make exciting encounters.&nbsp; It finally seems like I can role play alot more and focus on that.&nbsp; I also love to adhoc whenever I can and 4e seems alot easier for me to do this.&nbsp;Thanks again to everyone for all the response.&nbsp; It has been so helpful and informative.&nbsp; I really apprecaite it.&nbsp;NimbleToronto, ON</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nimble Goodbarrel, post: 4861760, member: 82770"] Again thanks to everyone. With the Pro's and Con's (and the fact the books went on sale near me) I went out and bought the core 4e books and have begun reading them and highlighting the cool parts over the phone to my players. The reaction has been mixed. One player seems really excited, the other continues to be arguementative and doubtful. The doubtful player, sees the new edition as dumbed down. He does not like the fact that magic has been greatly reduced in shear amount of spells. My arguement was in the 15 years of playing D&D we have only used spells like 'Grease' twice. So the spells that have been kept are simple, easy to use and the once we typically throw at monsters. I think that he see's this as the end of his 3e campaigne, which I told him wasn't truem that we could keep playing his game as long as he wanted. Over all I am sure that I have made the right decision. I haven't been this excited aobut playing D&D in almost 8 years. This new version really seems like I will be able to spend more time on NPC's, what is going on in the world, and other cool story elements that I really couldn't spend time on in 3e. I spent most of my time trying to plan out what the monsters would do each round to make exciting encounters. It finally seems like I can role play alot more and focus on that. I also love to adhoc whenever I can and 4e seems alot easier for me to do this. Thanks again to everyone for all the response. It has been so helpful and informative. I really apprecaite it. Nimble Toronto, ON [/QUOTE]

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