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<blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 2714104" data-attributes="member: 545">Well, yes, a well-prepared Wizard is more than a match for the CR equivalent of grunts.My point is more addressing the argument that magic has some uniquely disruptive effect on the battlefield.&nbsp; Mass longbow fire was pretty disruptive to warfare.&nbsp; I just do not see that 1st, 2nd, or 3rd level spells from a few spellcasters would be all that different over the course of a large battle.As for higher level spells, the logic of the D&amp;D mechanics pretty much mandate that officers be significantly better than level 1.&nbsp; Frankly, I do not think it makes much sense to have so many level 1 grunts.&nbsp; Veterans could easily have earned the xp over the course of a couple campaigns to be 2nd or 3rd level, if NPCs were to use rules for xps in any way resembling that of the PCs.As I see it, the challenge of the exercise is to see if one can adequately alleviate the Fireballs and similar power magic with mundane tactics and cheap/low-level magic.A savvy spellcaster would be worth more than their weight in CR equivalent grunts.&nbsp; But there is no particular logic of massed warfare that says there be any fairness in measures like level-equivalent or CR equivalent.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ridley's Cohort, post: 2714104, member: 545"] Well, yes, a well-prepared Wizard is more than a match for the CR equivalent of grunts. My point is more addressing the argument that magic has some uniquely disruptive effect on the battlefield. Mass longbow fire was pretty disruptive to warfare. I just do not see that 1st, 2nd, or 3rd level spells from a few spellcasters would be all that different over the course of a large battle. As for higher level spells, the logic of the D&D mechanics pretty much mandate that officers be significantly better than level 1. Frankly, I do not think it makes much sense to have so many level 1 grunts. Veterans could easily have earned the xp over the course of a couple campaigns to be 2nd or 3rd level, if NPCs were to use rules for xps in any way resembling that of the PCs. As I see it, the challenge of the exercise is to see if one can adequately alleviate the Fireballs and similar power magic with mundane tactics and cheap/low-level magic. A savvy spellcaster would be worth more than their weight in CR equivalent grunts. But there is no particular logic of massed warfare that says there be any fairness in measures like level-equivalent or CR equivalent. [/QUOTE]

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