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<blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 469377" data-attributes="member: 545">Pricing magic items is an art.&nbsp; As such we have to look at it from many angles to estimate a fair price.&nbsp; Here are a number of reasonable attempts at pricing the item.&nbsp; Consider them all before you decide on a price...(1a) Protection from Evil is a 1st level spell.&nbsp; That cost 1 x 1 x 2000 gp to make as an item.&nbsp; To make that &quot;slotless&quot;, double the price to 4000 gp.&nbsp; On a +1 shield that is 1000 gp (for +1 enchantment) + 4000 gp = 5000 gp total.(1b) Protection from Evil is a very powerful 1st level spell with a short duration (1 minute/level), as well as high utility in my campaign.&nbsp; As such, if made permenant, it is comparable to 2nd level spells, such as Protection from Arrows.&nbsp; 2 x 3 x 2000 gp = 12000gp.&nbsp; Doubled that is 24000 gp to add onto another magic item. 25000 gp for a +1 Shield of Protection from Evil.&nbsp; (1c) 5000 is too cheap.&nbsp; 25000 is too expensive.&nbsp; Pick somewhere in between.(2) Compare with other shield abilities on table 8-7 on page 180 of the DMG.&nbsp; A +2 Deflection bonus alone is ballpark similar in power to a +2 enhancement equivalent (plus other nifty bonuses, albeit mostly only useful against evil).&nbsp; In fact, when I look at the list, I estimate the Protection from Evil is comparable to Fire Resistance, a +3 equivalent enhancement.&nbsp; A +1 Shield of Protection from Evil would be +4 equivalent, for a price of 16000 gp.(3) According to table 8-40 (p. 242 in the DMG), a +2 Deflection bonus is worth 8000 gp, and a +2 resistance bonus is worth 4000 gp.&nbsp; That's 12000 gp so far.&nbsp; But this works only against evil, so it should be discounted; I will be generous and knock down this price to 9000 gp.&nbsp; The protection from being mind controlled and a little extra resistance to summoned creatures are nice little benefits, too; I will call that 2000 gp.&nbsp; That is 11000 gp total.&nbsp; Doubled for being slotless, it goes to 22000 gp.&nbsp; On top of a +1 Shield, that would be 23000 gp.All 5 answers, listed above are based on the DMG rules.&nbsp; So the argument &quot;it should be cheap because it is a 1st level spell&quot; is too simplistic.Personally, I think #2 is the best approach.&nbsp; YMMV.(You may have noticed I doubled the Protection from Evil for being slotless.&nbsp; Normally one would double the cheapest function of the item, such as the +1 enchancement on the shield.&nbsp; IMO, that is a Bad Idea because it is foreseeable that Magic Vestment will be cast on this shield.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ridley's Cohort, post: 469377, member: 545"] Pricing magic items is an art. As such we have to look at it from many angles to estimate a fair price. Here are a number of reasonable attempts at pricing the item. Consider them all before you decide on a price... (1a) Protection from Evil is a 1st level spell. That cost 1 x 1 x 2000 gp to make as an item. To make that "slotless", double the price to 4000 gp. On a +1 shield that is 1000 gp (for +1 enchantment) + 4000 gp = 5000 gp total. (1b) Protection from Evil is a very powerful 1st level spell with a [i]short duration[/i] (1 minute/level), as well as high utility in my campaign. As such, if made permenant, it is comparable to 2nd level spells, such as Protection from Arrows. 2 x 3 x 2000 gp = 12000gp. Doubled that is 24000 gp to add onto another magic item. 25000 gp for a +1 Shield of Protection from Evil. (1c) 5000 is too cheap. 25000 is too expensive. Pick somewhere in between. (2) Compare with other shield abilities on table 8-7 on page 180 of the DMG. A +2 Deflection bonus alone is ballpark similar in power to a +2 enhancement equivalent (plus other nifty bonuses, albeit mostly only useful against evil). In fact, when I look at the list, I estimate the Protection from Evil is comparable to Fire Resistance, a +3 equivalent enhancement. A +1 Shield of Protection from Evil would be +4 equivalent, for a price of 16000 gp. (3) According to table 8-40 (p. 242 in the DMG), a +2 Deflection bonus is worth 8000 gp, and a +2 resistance bonus is worth 4000 gp. That's 12000 gp so far. But this works only against evil, so it should be discounted; I will be generous and knock down this price to 9000 gp. The protection from being mind controlled and a little extra resistance to summoned creatures are nice little benefits, too; I will call that 2000 gp. That is 11000 gp total. Doubled for being slotless, it goes to 22000 gp. On top of a +1 Shield, that would be 23000 gp. All 5 answers, listed above are based on the DMG rules. So the argument "it should be cheap because it is a 1st level spell" is too simplistic. Personally, I think #2 is the best approach. YMMV. (You may have noticed I doubled the Protection from Evil for being slotless. Normally one would double the cheapest function of the item, such as the +1 enchancement on the shield. IMO, that is a Bad Idea because it is foreseeable that Magic Vestment will be cast on this shield.) [/QUOTE]

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