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<blockquote data-quote="ouini" data-source="post: 923367" data-attributes="member: 3506"><p>In the PHB, under the "conflicting spell effects" magic description area, there seems to be a conflict I can't figure out. It says to make opposed Charisma rolls when the effects of two mind-affecting spells directly conflict with one another. But is also says that this is moot wrt, say, Hold Person, as it takes away your ability to move.</p><p></p><p>Wha?</p><p></p><p>Hold Person is just another mind-affecting spell. It's not paralyzing you physically. It's a compulsion, just like Domination, to be still. Its effects will conflict directly with other mind-affecting compulsions which tell you to move somehow, so why don't you make opposed Charisma rolls? Is it somehow better or of a different nature than all the other mind-affecting compulsion enchantments?</p><p></p><p>The reason I'm wondering about this is because Protection from X spells (good, evil, etc), say they don't prevent mind-affecting spells from being cast on you, but they -do- keep the commands from being given to you. I thought, "hey, Hold Person fits in that category -- it's a single command to hold still, so any Protection from X spell will protect you from Hold Person." But it also seems the PHB wants to treat it as both a mind-affecting compulsion enchantment, and as something more powerful, too. I'm having trouble parsing that.</p><p></p><p>Any errata or Sage Advice about this?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ouini, post: 923367, member: 3506"] In the PHB, under the "conflicting spell effects" magic description area, there seems to be a conflict I can't figure out. It says to make opposed Charisma rolls when the effects of two mind-affecting spells directly conflict with one another. But is also says that this is moot wrt, say, Hold Person, as it takes away your ability to move. Wha? Hold Person is just another mind-affecting spell. It's not paralyzing you physically. It's a compulsion, just like Domination, to be still. Its effects will conflict directly with other mind-affecting compulsions which tell you to move somehow, so why don't you make opposed Charisma rolls? Is it somehow better or of a different nature than all the other mind-affecting compulsion enchantments? The reason I'm wondering about this is because Protection from X spells (good, evil, etc), say they don't prevent mind-affecting spells from being cast on you, but they -do- keep the commands from being given to you. I thought, "hey, Hold Person fits in that category -- it's a single command to hold still, so any Protection from X spell will protect you from Hold Person." But it also seems the PHB wants to treat it as both a mind-affecting compulsion enchantment, and as something more powerful, too. I'm having trouble parsing that. Any errata or Sage Advice about this? [/QUOTE]
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