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<blockquote data-quote="ruleslawyer" data-source="post: 175641" data-attributes="member: 1757"><p>Actually, defeating an entire army (probably composed of creatures whose level is individually far below the dragon's) would merit only an ad hoc XP award according to the tables in the DMG.</p><p></p><p>As for dragons with levels: I really don't bother. When I do, I tend to add on a very few levels, with the exception of unique beasties like Daurgothoth. I actually have a problem adding levels to "boss monsters" like fiends and dragons for a simple reason. IMHO, PCs are supposed to be special, heroic, unique individuals; their ability to achieve high levels in character classes is due to, and evidence of, this heroism and uniqueness. Thus, to add levels on to monsters that are already powerful enough to pose a challenge to mighty heroes (giants, older dragons, etc.), cheapens the achievement that those heroes have made in striving and surviving for long enough to reach high levels. If I gave class levels to dragons simply on the basis that anything intelligent and long-lived should have them, then every single dragon, lich, vampire, fiend, and elf IMC would be vastly beyond the power of the PCs to interact with, much less defeat. But that's just IMHO...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ruleslawyer, post: 175641, member: 1757"] Actually, defeating an entire army (probably composed of creatures whose level is individually far below the dragon's) would merit only an ad hoc XP award according to the tables in the DMG. As for dragons with levels: I really don't bother. When I do, I tend to add on a very few levels, with the exception of unique beasties like Daurgothoth. I actually have a problem adding levels to "boss monsters" like fiends and dragons for a simple reason. IMHO, PCs are supposed to be special, heroic, unique individuals; their ability to achieve high levels in character classes is due to, and evidence of, this heroism and uniqueness. Thus, to add levels on to monsters that are already powerful enough to pose a challenge to mighty heroes (giants, older dragons, etc.), cheapens the achievement that those heroes have made in striving and surviving for long enough to reach high levels. If I gave class levels to dragons simply on the basis that anything intelligent and long-lived should have them, then every single dragon, lich, vampire, fiend, and elf IMC would be vastly beyond the power of the PCs to interact with, much less defeat. But that's just IMHO... [/QUOTE]
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