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<blockquote data-quote="EroGaki" data-source="post: 5016140" data-attributes="member: 57909">This, IMO, isn't really necessary. Having access to haste at level 4 instead of level 5 (when a wizard would get it) isn't a game breaker. And by the time he gets access to those other spells (dimension door, etc) a wizard would already be able to cast those. All together, not too bad, especially if the class loses the eidolon, its hit dice, and BAB like you wish it to. Keep in mind that this is going to be the Advanced Players Guide. From what I understand, it will be emphasized in the book that these classes are intended for mature, trustworthy players. Ones who know enough to not hog the spotlight or break the game. If you don't like the class, don't allow it. But don't harp about how the class is going to ruin the game just because you don't like the idea of of the class. Just ban it from your game and move on. The point of the play test is getting constructive feedback. All you seem to be saying is don't create the class at all. Which is what they are not looking for.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EroGaki, post: 5016140, member: 57909"] This, IMO, isn't really necessary. Having access to haste at level 4 instead of level 5 (when a wizard would get it) isn't a game breaker. And by the time he gets access to those other spells (dimension door, etc) a wizard would already be able to cast those. All together, not too bad, especially if the class loses the eidolon, its hit dice, and BAB like you wish it to. Keep in mind that this is going to be the [I]Advanced [/I]Players Guide. From what I understand, it will be emphasized in the book that these classes are intended for mature, trustworthy players. Ones who know enough to not hog the spotlight or break the game. If you don't like the class, don't allow it. But don't harp about how the class is going to ruin the game just because you don't like the idea of of the class. Just ban it from your game and move on. The point of the play test is getting constructive feedback. All you seem to be saying is don't create the class at all. Which is what they are [I]not [/I]looking for. [/QUOTE]

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