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<blockquote data-quote="reanjr" data-source="post: 2946796" data-attributes="member: 20740"><p>Yes, and 360 will have an HD-DVD drive that with the system, will still cost less than PS3. Blu-ray has no advantage over HD-DVD, is more expensive, and doesn't actually exist. If there is going to be a new disc format, it's going to be HD-DVD unless the PS3 sells enough units (ignoring Blu-ray as a selling point, because it isn't compared to HD-DVD).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sony is saying 60-80. My guess is that DVD games will be 60, Sony's games 70, third party 70-80, depending on disc format.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is absolutely nothing wrong with changing discs half-way through a game. It will be a very long time (or due to horrible development teams) before games require enough data that switching DVDs will become a problem. Especially with the cost of developing games going up. A huge amount of that cost is artists. To offset this, it is expected that many more companies will begin to use algorithms to generate art rather than having it done by hand in many cases. This will reduce the need to store huge amounts of textures.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's not special. ALL consoles have the same thing happen. Look at Super Mario Bros. vs. Castlevania III, Super Mario 64 vs. Resident Evil 2, FFVII vs. Parasite Eve, Ghost Recon vs. Splinter Cell. By the time PS3 comes out, 360s performance may even outshine it due to developer experience. Add to that the fact that most dev studios only have experience writing single-process games and that creates an even larger hurdle for PS3 devs (which are dealing with Cell's ~10 processors).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's not innovative. All the consoles are supporting backwards compatibility. And PS3's back catalogue will be dwarfed to the point of not registering on radar compared to Wii's, which has 20+ years of back catalogue on more than half a dozen systems.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sorry, poor wording, I wasn't indicating that Halo 3 adds momentum, just indicating that it will be a significant factor in PS3 sales. Final Fantasy is a big deal, but MGS games have become cross platform. All but one are or will be available for non-Sony systems.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>MGS for one. Name another deal-breaking 3rd party franchise besides MGS and FF.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's pretty much a guarantee MS's service will be better. Sony has already said their online gaming service will basically consist of what has been available in the form of GameSpy on PC for a decade. They are not going to be regulating things like MS is. The regulation is what makes XBL great. Online didn't make or break last gen, but this gen, I expect things to be quite different. Even Nintendo's in on it, though they have a different focus that will beat out MS and Sony in many ways.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reanjr, post: 2946796, member: 20740"] Yes, and 360 will have an HD-DVD drive that with the system, will still cost less than PS3. Blu-ray has no advantage over HD-DVD, is more expensive, and doesn't actually exist. If there is going to be a new disc format, it's going to be HD-DVD unless the PS3 sells enough units (ignoring Blu-ray as a selling point, because it isn't compared to HD-DVD). Sony is saying 60-80. My guess is that DVD games will be 60, Sony's games 70, third party 70-80, depending on disc format. There is absolutely nothing wrong with changing discs half-way through a game. It will be a very long time (or due to horrible development teams) before games require enough data that switching DVDs will become a problem. Especially with the cost of developing games going up. A huge amount of that cost is artists. To offset this, it is expected that many more companies will begin to use algorithms to generate art rather than having it done by hand in many cases. This will reduce the need to store huge amounts of textures. That's not special. ALL consoles have the same thing happen. Look at Super Mario Bros. vs. Castlevania III, Super Mario 64 vs. Resident Evil 2, FFVII vs. Parasite Eve, Ghost Recon vs. Splinter Cell. By the time PS3 comes out, 360s performance may even outshine it due to developer experience. Add to that the fact that most dev studios only have experience writing single-process games and that creates an even larger hurdle for PS3 devs (which are dealing with Cell's ~10 processors). That's not innovative. All the consoles are supporting backwards compatibility. And PS3's back catalogue will be dwarfed to the point of not registering on radar compared to Wii's, which has 20+ years of back catalogue on more than half a dozen systems. Sorry, poor wording, I wasn't indicating that Halo 3 adds momentum, just indicating that it will be a significant factor in PS3 sales. Final Fantasy is a big deal, but MGS games have become cross platform. All but one are or will be available for non-Sony systems. MGS for one. Name another deal-breaking 3rd party franchise besides MGS and FF. It's pretty much a guarantee MS's service will be better. Sony has already said their online gaming service will basically consist of what has been available in the form of GameSpy on PC for a decade. They are not going to be regulating things like MS is. The regulation is what makes XBL great. Online didn't make or break last gen, but this gen, I expect things to be quite different. Even Nintendo's in on it, though they have a different focus that will beat out MS and Sony in many ways. [/QUOTE]
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