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<blockquote data-quote="John Crichton" data-source="post: 2949014" data-attributes="member: 4779"><p>I don’t assume anything except taking history and logic into account. The public has no clue when it comes to real news in unreleased gaming consoles. Myself included.</p><p></p><p>That’s an impressive set of numbers. Link me, is what I said. A source and MS projections is what I should have said.</p><p></p><p>Where are the numbers and links to support this. Considering the lack of games, I highly doubt they are hitting the projections they want. But, I could be wrong.</p><p></p><p>As ‘Beyond Good & Evil” proved, good reviews mean nothing. And that game wasn’t a system seller. I can see why it didn’t do well. That tangent aside, the titles you mentioned are not system sellers. Why? Because they are not exclusive. Exclusives sell systems. And the ones that are exclusives aren’t good enough to make every game run out and buy the system. The only game on that list with any real buzz and influence is Oblivion. Tomb Raider is nice, but most folks with a PS2, PC or Xbox will pick it up for that system rather than drop $300-400 on a new console that will make the game look better. That’s what makes exclusives so powerful. They give us no choice but to plunk down the big dollars to play a must-have game.</p><p></p><p>I move that this point be stricken from the record as it assumes these games are making people buy consoles without any proof at all. If they were all exclusives, then there would be an argument.</p><p></p><p>I don’t agree at all. Only the people with money to burn or early adopters will buy a new system just to play a game they already can on a system they already own. I’m talking about the PS2 here and the PC next. The PS2 is the system to beat right now and that is what the 360 is competing again, and losing. It annoys me because I want more 360 games and can’t friggin wait for next year when the good stuff gets here! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>It’s a big deal right now. See above post.</p><p></p><p>Then what? Okay, you’ve thrown down the gauntlet, <strong>Arwyn</strong> has given a few titles that have a hardcore following, which is basically the fanatical RPG market (a huge market!) but I shall toss out a few more (some may be cross-platform but people tend to remember a game’s roots): Gran Turismo, SOCOM, Guitar Hero, Jak & Daxter, Sly Cooper, Katamari Damacy & Onimusha. Huge sellers and lots of ‘em is what Sony has, as well as a reputation for getting the boss games. MS is going to have to produce more quality titles and a variety that matches the PS2 to be the top dog this generation. I think they are going the right direction, myself. It’s great that there are choices and awesome exclusives on 3 consoles. </p><p></p><p>Great time to be a gamer, to me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John Crichton, post: 2949014, member: 4779"] I don’t assume anything except taking history and logic into account. The public has no clue when it comes to real news in unreleased gaming consoles. Myself included. That’s an impressive set of numbers. Link me, is what I said. A source and MS projections is what I should have said. Where are the numbers and links to support this. Considering the lack of games, I highly doubt they are hitting the projections they want. But, I could be wrong. As ‘Beyond Good & Evil” proved, good reviews mean nothing. And that game wasn’t a system seller. I can see why it didn’t do well. That tangent aside, the titles you mentioned are not system sellers. Why? Because they are not exclusive. Exclusives sell systems. And the ones that are exclusives aren’t good enough to make every game run out and buy the system. The only game on that list with any real buzz and influence is Oblivion. Tomb Raider is nice, but most folks with a PS2, PC or Xbox will pick it up for that system rather than drop $300-400 on a new console that will make the game look better. That’s what makes exclusives so powerful. They give us no choice but to plunk down the big dollars to play a must-have game. I move that this point be stricken from the record as it assumes these games are making people buy consoles without any proof at all. If they were all exclusives, then there would be an argument. I don’t agree at all. Only the people with money to burn or early adopters will buy a new system just to play a game they already can on a system they already own. I’m talking about the PS2 here and the PC next. The PS2 is the system to beat right now and that is what the 360 is competing again, and losing. It annoys me because I want more 360 games and can’t friggin wait for next year when the good stuff gets here! :) It’s a big deal right now. See above post. Then what? Okay, you’ve thrown down the gauntlet, [b]Arwyn[/b] has given a few titles that have a hardcore following, which is basically the fanatical RPG market (a huge market!) but I shall toss out a few more (some may be cross-platform but people tend to remember a game’s roots): Gran Turismo, SOCOM, Guitar Hero, Jak & Daxter, Sly Cooper, Katamari Damacy & Onimusha. Huge sellers and lots of ‘em is what Sony has, as well as a reputation for getting the boss games. MS is going to have to produce more quality titles and a variety that matches the PS2 to be the top dog this generation. I think they are going the right direction, myself. It’s great that there are choices and awesome exclusives on 3 consoles. Great time to be a gamer, to me. :) [/QUOTE]
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