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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vigilance" data-source="post: 3039434" data-attributes="member: 4275">All the articles I've quoted came from Gamespot more or less, which I find to be a fairly neutral source. They're pro-gaming, but not specifically pro-PS or pro-MS or pro-Nintendo. And besides a rather provocative title, I don't think I have been that extreme in my opinions. I'm reporting what I'm reading. Everything I read says that Blue Ray is more expensive than HD-DVD, whether it's for movies or games. HD-DVD can use existing DVD manufacturing, but Blue Ray cannot. So it's my understanding that this alone will make them more expensive, and I still think that's the case.I will be HAPPY to be proven wrong. See this is what you continue to miss about me. Because of the thread title maybe, or maybe just defensiveness cause I disagree with you, you have decided that I "hate Sony". So you ask "what is with the Sony hate". I bought a Playstation and a PS2 AT LAUNCH. How the hell is that hate? I *want* this to be a successful console because the more successful consoles there are out there, the more games there will be. But I also will not sit by and say nothing when I see Sony making mistakes.And I think charging 100 dollars more for what is essentially the same product, IS a mistake. You think I like Microsoft? Not particularly. But if the console is less expensive for a comparable product, I'll buy it. I never considered buying an X-box. Customers like me, who have been pushed to consider the competition by Sony's current strategy, are a loss to the company. Good for them. That big price drop had better bring it in line with X-box or I will be buying an X-box. See how that works? I'm going to SHOP AROUND, LOOK AT COMPETING PRODUCTS and then DECIDE.I'm not sure how using my head as a consumer means that I "hate Sony" as you allege. So you finally admit that their launch lineup doesn't look that good. Why do you "hate Sony" so much John? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />And think about WHY their launch lineup might not be as good this time around. Could it be that they have made a mistake or two by overpricing the console?And yeah I hate Blue Ray "sight unseen" because it is just another copy protection scheme and another grab to get everyone to upgrade to the new thing and ditch their DVDs. I know a company flexing its muscle when I see it. Again, I shop, I read, call me funny that way. I'm a geek. It's pretty easy to talk me out of my money with the new shiny. I'm currently counting the days till Marvel Ultimate Alliance and FF XII come out. And I'm fairly certain I have never claimed the sky *IS* falling. I have much bigger problems with MS business practices than Sony and was a launch customer for the PS2 and the PS. The fact that I am so annoyed with what's going on right now should be a concern to them, but maybe I'm in the minority and maybe people WILL pay 100 dollars more for what is essentially the same console on the strength of the PS brand. Chuck</blockquote>

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