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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vigilance" data-source="post: 3044394" data-attributes="member: 4275">Well, MS has sold through their initial run of 800,000 X-Box 360's in Japan, so that's um, a toe hold anyway <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />The Japanese are very ambivalent toward MS though. I do agree that the Wii is the console with the best chance to challenge the PS3, because it seems firmly targeted at kids, people with lives and people with no pathological need to be on the bleeding edge. Whereas the PS3 has essentially moved itself toward being a more luxury item.Anytime I can get a desktop PC for less than a console gaming system, that gaming system is in trouble and I suspect I'm not the only one who feels this way. And no, I don't define "trouble" as the sky falling and corporate executives flinging themselves to their deaths. But I do define it as leaving behind the mass market that the PS and PS2 were both able to appeal to so well. EA Sports and some hunting and fishing games also have done well with this mass market crowd by continuing to support older consoles. Madden was still coming out for the Playstation ONE in 2004 and is still coming out for the gamecube. Chuck</blockquote>