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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rackhir" data-source="post: 3046649" data-attributes="member: 149">I suspect a lot of Microsofts problems with Japanese developers come back to their generally tone deaf approch to the japanese market or it could simply be a justified waryness at dealing with a company that has ripped off and nuked a number of their "partners" in the past. However, Sony doesn't seem like it is doing too much better on that score of late. I've noted with interest that Bandai has announced a number of Mobile Suit Gundam games for the 360, which the previous playstations got the lion's share of.So, you've lived in Japan for several years like I have and have been in a number of Japanese homes? And spent a significant amount of time poking around Akihabara looking at what they sell there?How big vcrs were 25 years ago, isn't really important to products that started being sold only about 6 yrs ago. And I can tell you that even when I was there 15 yrs ago most of the vcrs were a LOT smaller than the xbox is. Hell even the vcr my college roomates had 18 yrs ago was a lot smaller than the xbox is.Basic was of course their original product, but considering that their original basic was something that had to be entered in assembler into the MITS Altair and wasn't a language created by them, there was limited scope to produce a truly awful product. Excel was essentially at least a version 2.0 product given that they'd already created multiplan (a very forgetable spreadsheet, I had a copy). They also had Lotus 1-2-3 to crib off of. Word and Excel didn't really reach it's stranglehold until they started bundling it as Microsoft Office v 4.2 IIRC. Windows NT was a bad joke until version 4 (actually the 2nd/2.5 version of the product). I remember them trumpeting how it had recieved some government security rating, which sounded impressive until you looked at the small print and noticed that it only recieved that rating if it was completely isolated from all other computers and equipment. Rather a drawback for a "networked" OS. And arguably didn't fully hit it's stride until it morphed into windows 2000. Which is the first version of windows to really be regarded well in terms of stability and performance.SQL server from Microsoft was version 7 before it started being really well regarded. And was again not a product they originally created. .Net, was originally going to be a do everything, tie everything together, product of unclear purpose, function and scope. It has since been relegated to being a nearly forgotten piece of plumbing for the operating system. Not my definition of a runaway success.</blockquote>

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