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<blockquote data-quote="John Crichton" data-source="post: 3048452" data-attributes="member: 4779"><p>This is not true. I will not labor this point. Pro-SystemX doesn't matter. There is conjecture all over the place in the links provided. Go back and read them. Have the people quoted meant anything to you before? Have you heard of all of them?</p><p></p><p>Perhaps you have. Perhaps not. That is not for me to decide. </p><p></p><p>Well and good...</p><p></p><p>You are in good hands. The games will be at 360 prices. Worry not.</p><p></p><p>Because of your posts. Until recently, your stance is clearly against everything that Sony is currently doing (and still hasn't changed expect to say that you are expecting the worst and hoping for better). If your intensions of impartiality were true there would be posts to counter-articles and arguements both ways. Look at your opinions of the prices of the games- they are decided already and you are assuming the worst with no confirmation. Hence my provocative statement that people with similar opinions believe that the "sky is falling." Your Sony support in the past encourages my statement as you believe the company you have been supporting has abandoned you.</p><p></p><p>Assumed mistakes are one thing. Killing Sony for every mistep, real or not, is another. I only ask for objectivity and to respect history a bit. Doesn't mean that the same thing that happened last gen will happen this time around but then again, don't we all want more selection on all the consoles?</p><p></p><p>A challenger to Sony is a good thing. Who is on top doesn't matter. It does matter that the company is still fully behind the PS3 and that games are on tap for it in a big way. Many different companies are producing games for it, hard to program for or not. It's an expensive machine at launch. Imagine that it were $100 cheaper and then think of the games. It's a different view. An extra $100 investment isn't really that much these days for the dedicated gamer. It's 2 games. Or one game and a controller. A price the HD folks are more than willing to pay at launch.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's only a mistake if the price stays there for more than a year and the system doesn't sell. Otherwise, that's just an opinion.</p><p></p><p>So be it. Buy the games you like. Vote with your dollar. That's really the only way. I've already given my $400 to MS. The same will happen with the PS3. Maybe not at launch but eventually. It will have games that I want.</p><p></p><p>No need to shout. I assume that everyone does the same thing. If the 360 is what appeals to you most than you most certainly should get one before the PS3. To do otherwise would be wrong.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As for the "hate": It was hate towards Sony, not that anyone hated Sony. Please don't take it personally. It's just the tone of your posts that is contradictory. You seem intent on being core audience for a price point and feature set that doesn't apply to you for a launch system with games that aren't must haves. I'm just saying to chill, wait for a better price and good games to play and then decide. Forget the "industry experts" and "guys from company X" who say this and that. You seem like a reasonable dude who will decide on what's out there. But the majority of your posts speak otherwise.</p><p></p><p>It's no secret that the PS3 launch lineup has no killer titles. If I have said otherwise somewhere then quote me up and call me wrong. Launch games are typically not that good. It's why I usually hold off. I may make exception for a cheap BR player on the PS3 but that's just the tech-geek talking, not the gamer.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I have and it doesn't matter. There hasn't been a must have launch game for any system since the Dreamcast. There have been good ones for genre fans (for example, FPS on the 360) but no must haves.</p><p></p><p>You're funny that way. And you're right. BR <strong>&</strong> HD-DVD have nothing to do with higher quality video that is able to be displayed on the right output source that is becoming more and more popular and affordable every year.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Apologies to mods for the snark there. But as as someone who pays attention to these things, ignorance of trends and what tech actually does bugs me a bit.</p><p></p><p>Dang, man! The people buying the PS3 at launch are simply the early adopters and tech-freaks who want/need the latest and greatest. It would be silly for the gamer who isn't into HD to get one at launch. The price is too high and none of the games seem worth it, just like everything from the 360 this gen and all the systems from last gen (except the DC which had a respectable lineup and the 360 if you are a FPS fan). Price drops need to happen and they will. Unless people keep buying it at the premium price. Which no one sees happening.</p><p></p><p>No need to prognosticate $90 game prices and the like until you see 'em. Just watch the bleh launch games pass by and wait for the good stuff in 6-10 months. Like every new system these days.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John Crichton, post: 3048452, member: 4779"] This is not true. I will not labor this point. Pro-SystemX doesn't matter. There is conjecture all over the place in the links provided. Go back and read them. Have the people quoted meant anything to you before? Have you heard of all of them? Perhaps you have. Perhaps not. That is not for me to decide. Well and good... You are in good hands. The games will be at 360 prices. Worry not. Because of your posts. Until recently, your stance is clearly against everything that Sony is currently doing (and still hasn't changed expect to say that you are expecting the worst and hoping for better). If your intensions of impartiality were true there would be posts to counter-articles and arguements both ways. Look at your opinions of the prices of the games- they are decided already and you are assuming the worst with no confirmation. Hence my provocative statement that people with similar opinions believe that the "sky is falling." Your Sony support in the past encourages my statement as you believe the company you have been supporting has abandoned you. Assumed mistakes are one thing. Killing Sony for every mistep, real or not, is another. I only ask for objectivity and to respect history a bit. Doesn't mean that the same thing that happened last gen will happen this time around but then again, don't we all want more selection on all the consoles? A challenger to Sony is a good thing. Who is on top doesn't matter. It does matter that the company is still fully behind the PS3 and that games are on tap for it in a big way. Many different companies are producing games for it, hard to program for or not. It's an expensive machine at launch. Imagine that it were $100 cheaper and then think of the games. It's a different view. An extra $100 investment isn't really that much these days for the dedicated gamer. It's 2 games. Or one game and a controller. A price the HD folks are more than willing to pay at launch. It's only a mistake if the price stays there for more than a year and the system doesn't sell. Otherwise, that's just an opinion. So be it. Buy the games you like. Vote with your dollar. That's really the only way. I've already given my $400 to MS. The same will happen with the PS3. Maybe not at launch but eventually. It will have games that I want. No need to shout. I assume that everyone does the same thing. If the 360 is what appeals to you most than you most certainly should get one before the PS3. To do otherwise would be wrong. As for the "hate": It was hate towards Sony, not that anyone hated Sony. Please don't take it personally. It's just the tone of your posts that is contradictory. You seem intent on being core audience for a price point and feature set that doesn't apply to you for a launch system with games that aren't must haves. I'm just saying to chill, wait for a better price and good games to play and then decide. Forget the "industry experts" and "guys from company X" who say this and that. You seem like a reasonable dude who will decide on what's out there. But the majority of your posts speak otherwise. It's no secret that the PS3 launch lineup has no killer titles. If I have said otherwise somewhere then quote me up and call me wrong. Launch games are typically not that good. It's why I usually hold off. I may make exception for a cheap BR player on the PS3 but that's just the tech-geek talking, not the gamer. I have and it doesn't matter. There hasn't been a must have launch game for any system since the Dreamcast. There have been good ones for genre fans (for example, FPS on the 360) but no must haves. You're funny that way. And you're right. BR [b]&[/b] HD-DVD have nothing to do with higher quality video that is able to be displayed on the right output source that is becoming more and more popular and affordable every year. EDIT: Apologies to mods for the snark there. But as as someone who pays attention to these things, ignorance of trends and what tech actually does bugs me a bit. Dang, man! The people buying the PS3 at launch are simply the early adopters and tech-freaks who want/need the latest and greatest. It would be silly for the gamer who isn't into HD to get one at launch. The price is too high and none of the games seem worth it, just like everything from the 360 this gen and all the systems from last gen (except the DC which had a respectable lineup and the 360 if you are a FPS fan). Price drops need to happen and they will. Unless people keep buying it at the premium price. Which no one sees happening. No need to prognosticate $90 game prices and the like until you see 'em. Just watch the bleh launch games pass by and wait for the good stuff in 6-10 months. Like every new system these days. [/QUOTE]
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