D&D (2024) Psion Class: Green/Yellow/Red?

[Kobold Stew]

It all just feels so flat. I read the UA, and then the 2017 Mystic they offered us and there's simply no comparison: they had something solid and creative and different 8 years ago. Now we have another spellcaster.

 

[Yaarel]

Green.

Overall I would play the UA Psion class as-is.

Heh, even the stuff that I truly hate (material components, die!), it is only a small detail in the context of the very many good things going on in the class.

The class needs to be normal D&D mechanics, and if that means spell slots and superiority dice, I can live with that.

Still, this is a time for playtesting, so we should be looking for pain points, imbalances, or helpful improvements.

Ultimately, what the Psion will be exactly will incline toward the majority of players.

 

[Yaarel]

I.e. if you vote red you are not voting for a different alternative, you are voting to get nothing at all. If you would prefer it done differently then you should vote yellow and write in what you want.

Yeah. The survey itself should make it clear that 'red' means scrap it.

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

I lean to Green.

Little details can hopefully be worked out. For instance I’d like more psion spells that aren’t available to wizards (but I’d be open to sharing with warlocks or sorcerers).

I’m noticing a large deficit of evocation and conjuration spells from the psion list which makes the Destructive Thoughts discipline fairly pointless at the moment. Entirely fixed by just more psion spells with those schools.

Like I said I think that’s minor though.

 

[I'm A Banana]

Yellow. There are some pretty deeply janky subclass options and some core class ideas that are very half-baked. Needs more time in the oven. Bones are fine, though.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Yeah. The survey itself should make it clear that 'red' means scrap it.

The description of the traffic light system does that.

 

[Bacon Bits]

Yellow to red.

It reads like a Bard or Sorcerer subclass. Psionic Power Dice have the same mechanical problem as so many of WotCs designs. They give you a limited resource and then everything else that class gets is yet another way to burn that one limited resource. So you're just a full spellcaster, because Spellcasting's got a resource pool many times that size which also scales with level. It's not really any more distinct than Bardic Inspiration or Sorcery Points.

It's just so... uninteresting.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

That's not true. They are still need to make something for the book.
Red is voting for something completely different.


Of course, I can vote Red for "Spellcasting", which is the part that I don't like.

So vote yellow for the class and red for spellcastimg feature.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

With the Green/Yellow/Red system, do we know how many Green & Yellow ratio vs Red it needs to pass?

 

[Kobold Stew]

With the Green/Yellow/Red system, do we know how many Green & Yellow ratio vs Red it needs to pass?

I believe they have said nothing


EDIT: and even if they had set a threshold (such as applying the 70% to Greens-and-yellows), they are under no actual obligation to follow that. The benefits of the survey are primarily unidirectional, from the fan base to the company: we give them data, and we receive the UAs as a kind of advertising for the eventual product. There is no obligation to listen, and we shouldn't expect that they would (though of course we can be happy if they do).