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<blockquote data-quote="solates" data-source="post: 2687614" data-attributes="member: 38046"><p>Hrmm.</p><p></p><p>Every time you use a metapsionic effect you also lose your psionic focus, which you can only regain with another concentration check and 1 round lost. A feat does shorten the time it takes to get psionicly refocused to 1 move action.</p><p></p><p>Its not until epic levels do you get access to a feat that allows you to use your psionic focus on more than one feat at a time.</p><p></p><p>This limits the psion on blowing through the opposition as it were, yes he gets one round where hes doing some major damage but then has to rebalance in the following round.</p><p></p><p>The above listed powers are not even on my list of to gets for a psion. Theres other powers that are in effect alot more "fun" and easier on gameplay issues. </p><p></p><p>Astral constructs for example are fine, if you have them pre-prepared otherwise they bog down gameplay building them.</p><p></p><p>The morphic powers I always ignore because in all likely hood if i wanted to be a shapeshifter i would have went into the shifter prestige class. Other than maybe sneaking into somewhere as an item on someone else, or spying as an animal-see limited use.</p><p></p><p>The xph really did balance out the psionic classes to a greater degree than they were and also added alot of flavor to the various classes. </p><p></p><p>Of note the various energy powers(energy bolt, burst, ray, cone) are powerful for several reasons.</p><p>1. unlike its arcane or divine counterparts the psion can pick from any of the 5 energy bases at the time of casting(arcane or divine casters have to pick up a feat for each element they want to substitute(energy substitution).</p><p>2. The actual damage and save dcs go up as the psion levels up indefinately(only very few powers have an actual cap on power expenditures).</p><p>3. The act of augmentation does not make the psion lose his psionic focus.</p><p>4. You CAN augment and use a metapsionic feat on the same power and at later levels this can get probmatic because of the shear damage involved in some of the lower level spells being used in this way. In general almost all of them start with little to no damage dice, but its dangerous when a psion can generate a burst effect maximized.</p><p></p><p>On a different note the real dangerous powers are the ones that the psion uses on himself for buffs, his armor buffs have no cap, his weapon augmentation buffs also have no cap.</p><p></p><p>In example a lvl 100 psions lvl 1 armor spell can be boosted by up to 99 power points. And it will provide a hefty 37 armor bonus(I believe--thats from memory).</p><p></p><p>Not only that but a psion can gain armor, shield, insight, and natural armor bonuses from powers. </p><p></p><p>Weapon wise a psion can either buff his natural weaponry or an actual weapon in the same manner.</p><p></p><p>On the other side(arcane and divine) the only way to get a higher armor bonus from a spell is to create an epic spell to do so(expensive in both xp and gold).</p><p></p><p>In reality its all about the setting. In the original psionic setting(athas) psionics were not an issue because of the lack of magical augmentation running around, you really had to be that tough if you did not have magical armor and weapons. </p><p></p><p>From the xph you can make a character that without gear of any sort can still kill effectively at any level, with smart power selection and power usage. Likewise if you do run psionics as a player and as a dm you need to recognize this and maybe run a more brutal type world.</p><p></p><p>TBH though psionics are fairly balanced on the whole with its counterparts, at epic levels there starts to be a gap, but at normal gameplay you will get pretty much the same powerlevel from a psion as a wizard or sorcerer. The only major difference is the psion can heal himself and others. </p><p></p><p>Anyways i would be more concerned with having a soulblade or psychic warrior in the party more than a psion, a psion is a caster, and casters are squishy<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Solates</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="solates, post: 2687614, member: 38046"] Hrmm. Every time you use a metapsionic effect you also lose your psionic focus, which you can only regain with another concentration check and 1 round lost. A feat does shorten the time it takes to get psionicly refocused to 1 move action. Its not until epic levels do you get access to a feat that allows you to use your psionic focus on more than one feat at a time. This limits the psion on blowing through the opposition as it were, yes he gets one round where hes doing some major damage but then has to rebalance in the following round. The above listed powers are not even on my list of to gets for a psion. Theres other powers that are in effect alot more "fun" and easier on gameplay issues. Astral constructs for example are fine, if you have them pre-prepared otherwise they bog down gameplay building them. The morphic powers I always ignore because in all likely hood if i wanted to be a shapeshifter i would have went into the shifter prestige class. Other than maybe sneaking into somewhere as an item on someone else, or spying as an animal-see limited use. The xph really did balance out the psionic classes to a greater degree than they were and also added alot of flavor to the various classes. Of note the various energy powers(energy bolt, burst, ray, cone) are powerful for several reasons. 1. unlike its arcane or divine counterparts the psion can pick from any of the 5 energy bases at the time of casting(arcane or divine casters have to pick up a feat for each element they want to substitute(energy substitution). 2. The actual damage and save dcs go up as the psion levels up indefinately(only very few powers have an actual cap on power expenditures). 3. The act of augmentation does not make the psion lose his psionic focus. 4. You CAN augment and use a metapsionic feat on the same power and at later levels this can get probmatic because of the shear damage involved in some of the lower level spells being used in this way. In general almost all of them start with little to no damage dice, but its dangerous when a psion can generate a burst effect maximized. On a different note the real dangerous powers are the ones that the psion uses on himself for buffs, his armor buffs have no cap, his weapon augmentation buffs also have no cap. In example a lvl 100 psions lvl 1 armor spell can be boosted by up to 99 power points. And it will provide a hefty 37 armor bonus(I believe--thats from memory). Not only that but a psion can gain armor, shield, insight, and natural armor bonuses from powers. Weapon wise a psion can either buff his natural weaponry or an actual weapon in the same manner. On the other side(arcane and divine) the only way to get a higher armor bonus from a spell is to create an epic spell to do so(expensive in both xp and gold). In reality its all about the setting. In the original psionic setting(athas) psionics were not an issue because of the lack of magical augmentation running around, you really had to be that tough if you did not have magical armor and weapons. From the xph you can make a character that without gear of any sort can still kill effectively at any level, with smart power selection and power usage. Likewise if you do run psionics as a player and as a dm you need to recognize this and maybe run a more brutal type world. TBH though psionics are fairly balanced on the whole with its counterparts, at epic levels there starts to be a gap, but at normal gameplay you will get pretty much the same powerlevel from a psion as a wizard or sorcerer. The only major difference is the psion can heal himself and others. Anyways i would be more concerned with having a soulblade or psychic warrior in the party more than a psion, a psion is a caster, and casters are squishy:) Solates [/QUOTE]
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