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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2716843" data-attributes="member: 2011">Actually, it does not quite map out as you laid it out.The high level Astral Construct gets two abilities from Menu C (or one from C, two from B, etc.). The manifester could pick:Extra Buff + 30 HPExtra DR, +6Extra AC, +8. This one is HUGE compared to the other Summoned Bruisers.Naturally Invisibleor, even Fly (to fight the Air Elemental)So for example:Elder Fire ElementalSize HAC 25Speed 60hp 204Attacks +26/+26 (2d8+6 + 2d8 fire)15' reachDR 10/--Elder Earth ElementalSize HAC 22Speed 30hp 228Attacks +27/+27 (2d10+11/19-20 crit)15' reachDR 10/--Elder Water ElementalSize HAC 23Speed 30 / swim 120hp 228Attacks +25/+25 (2d10+9/19-20 crit)15' reachDR 10/--Elder Air ElementalSize HAC 27Speed fly 100hp 204Attacks +27/+27 (2d8+6)15' reachDR 10/--9th level Astral ConstructSize HAC 41Speed 50hp 174Attacks +28/+28 (2d6+16)15' reachDR 15/magicThe Astral Construct hits the Elementals virtually everytime (95%) for about 26 points of damage per full round attack, 13 for single round attacks.The Elementals hit the Astral Construct on average about 2 hits every 3 rounds for full round attacks, about 1 hit per 3 rounds for single round attacks. Most only do about 5 to 10 points per successful attack. The Elder Air Elemental can barely affect the Astral Construct due to his DR.The DR of the Astral Construct is more effective against the Elementals because the Elementals do not have DR/magic, hence, they do not negate the ACs DR. DR 15 (or 21 if you take the DR menu item) is better than DR 10.Neither creatures can critical the others, so bigger damage is not that important. Armor Class is important.</blockquote>

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