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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 2717689" data-attributes="member: 259">Are you talking about in my example?&nbsp; Certainly so--but if he uses the bow from within the elemental's reach, then he's going to suffer for it (as the elemental gets one AoO on him per shot he fires, and the elemental's attacks will all be at full BAB, whereas his will descend).&nbsp; If he uses the bow from a distance, then he only gets to fire one shot, and the elemental gets to take an AoO on him as he retreats, and the elemental can move forward next round to repeat the process.In either case, the fighter is in trouble if he doesn't change his tactics, either taking to the air, or using a reach weapon, or drinking a potion of enlarge or protection from fire, or something like that.Our sample fighter, if I understand correctly, can stand up one-on-one versus an astral construct; but against a fire elemental who uses its feats, the fighter will die in a straight-up battle.Of course, the fighter can also use his own feats--spring attack, power attack, etc.&nbsp; Some of these will be useful against an astral construct as well, though:&nbsp; a fighter who spring-attacks against an astral construct does only 55% of his damage each round, but he also prevents the construct from doing more than 60% of his damage each round, a net gain for him.Daniel</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 2717689, member: 259"] Are you talking about in my example? Certainly so--but if he uses the bow from within the elemental's reach, then he's going to suffer for it (as the elemental gets one AoO on him per shot he fires, and the elemental's attacks will all be at full BAB, whereas his will descend). If he uses the bow from a distance, then he only gets to fire one shot, and the elemental gets to take an AoO on him as he retreats, and the elemental can move forward next round to repeat the process. In either case, the fighter is in trouble if he doesn't change his tactics, either taking to the air, or using a reach weapon, or drinking a potion of enlarge or protection from fire, or something like that. Our sample fighter, if I understand correctly, can stand up one-on-one versus an astral construct; but against a fire elemental who uses its feats, the fighter will die in a straight-up battle. Of course, the fighter can also use his own feats--spring attack, power attack, etc. Some of these will be useful against an astral construct as well, though: a fighter who spring-attacks against an astral construct does only 55% of his damage each round, but he also prevents the construct from doing more than 60% of his damage each round, a net gain for him. Daniel [/QUOTE]

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