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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 2718512" data-attributes="member: 5777">For comparisons at this level how about the Leonal? He is a pretty cool little guy.He is pretty cool. Definately not as much damage but he has a lot of defensive abilities and a host of specials.A large number of skills for when those come into play, faster movement, lower hp, lower normal AC although higher touch AC (although against evil opponents it is about the same on normal and way higher in touch), less attack bonus and damage but one more attack (two while pouncing), nearly unbeatable DR, good elemental resistance overall, SR of 28 can even hinder 20th level casters on occasion, better saves but lesser immunities in general, useful feats, and some very interesting specials indeed..When he gets close to dieing the first time he can either drop a heal or a lay on hands (heal is 100hp, lay on hands is 114hp) to get back up to full.. and then again later.Wall of force at will? great combat control! Hold monster at will? ouch.Roar 3 times per day in a 60' cone? Ok, not so impressive, especially without knowing for sure what level it is used at.. although the assumption would be 10.. I guess it could take out grunts like no ones business, but the fireball at will could do that too.While not as good of a straight up bruiser as the astral construct this guy simply has incredible amounts of power and versitility. This guy is simply incredible.</blockquote>