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Message: <blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 5609901" data-attributes="member: 1210">I really don't think I am oversimplifying anything at all; it is actually very simple to begin with (imho). To wit: If a game isn't fun- don't play in that game. Alternative #1: Talk to the jerk player about it. Maybe he can help make it fun after all.Alternative #2: Talk to the dm about it. Maybe he can help make it fun after all.There is absolutely no obligation to play in a given person's game just because you are invited, and- just like any fun activity that isn't actually a good time- if it isn't actually fun, there's no reason to keep playing that game. If a dm gets offended when you explain that you have to leave the game for whatever reason, that's a pretty fragile ego on that dm.There's a common social fallacy amongst geeks that because someone is your friend, you MUST include them when you ______ (in this case, when you game). That is nonsense. Being a friend doesn't mean including someone in something that is less enjoyable because of their presence. If you're going on a date, you don't bring your pals along just because they are your pals, nor do you ask your sports-hating friend to go to the football game with you.Moreover, if the guy is a jerk and is not your friend in the first place, where's the issue? Would you invite someone who likes to pee in the corner of the living room into your house just because he's a friend of a friend? Where does this sense of obligation come from?If by 'others' you mean 'jerk players,' that's probably okay. Being shunned by jerks is probably a net positive. Non-jerk players, knowing you won't play with jerks, will probably be secretly hoping you start a group of your own so that they can ditch the jerks too.Not enough non-jerk players in the area? You can always recruit new ones. It's really not that hard, unless you live somewhere with a pretty sparse population.</blockquote>

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