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<blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 1168286" data-attributes="member: 3051"><p>I agree with Dinkeldog, but he's basing in on Ecto Puppet, which also says you must use your highest AC power. Since no one I know has ever played it that way, though, I don't see a problem with changing it.</p><p></p><p>It's a nice concept, but there are some questions that need to be asked.</p><p></p><p>1> Can you be damaged while inside your construct?</p><p>2> Does it prevent you from manifesting other powers while inside your construct?</p><p></p><p>If the answers are "no" to both, then it's a HUGE buffing power. You gain a lot of "buffer" HP, DR, and Natural AC. You gain sizes, which increases both your reach and your land speed. You can gain Fly speed or swim speed. If someone can't attack you separately from your construct, then you're effectively immune to critical hits, subdual damage, ability/energy drain, Charm/Dominate/Hold Person, or most things requiring a Fortitude save.</p><p></p><p>Even if you don't allow the encapsulated psion to use powers, it's still superior to Tenser's Transformation. Let's compare:</p><p></p><p>Tenser's (Wizard 6):</p><p>+(2*level) HP from increased CON, so +22 to +40; while the rest of the abilities stay when these HP are lost, you have to heal them before the spell wears off or you'll die.</p><p>+4 STR, +4 DEX</p><p>+4 Natural AC</p><p>+7 Fortitude (+2 from the CON, +5 separate)</p><p>Martial weapon proficiencies</p><p>BAB=level, including extra iterative attacks</p><p>Costs a potion.</p><p></p><p>Ecto Construct (let's take the 6th-level version, using an AC 4 as our shell):</p><p>+27 HP (once these are gone, though, the rest of the abilities go away)</p><p>STR goes to 25+half mine, DEX goes to 15+half mine</p><p>+5 Natural AC, but a -1 to AC thanks to size</p><p>Immune to many things requiring a Fort save</p><p>Gain a nice Slam attack that's as good (or better than) any martial weapon</p><p>A big attack bonus thanks to your huge STR, but no iterative attacks</p><p>Large size (10' reach, 50' base movement), DR 5/magic, and a menu B ability or two from menu A</p><p>If you can't be targetted separately, you're now type Construct effectively, with all the bonuses that gives.</p><p>No cost.</p><p></p><p>The point is, even if it adds a Tenser-like "can't cast spells or use wands" clause, it's still a more desirable spell in a lot of ways. It's far stronger if you've got all the Mind's Eye construct Feats like Extended Construction, Advanced Construction, etc.; a Constructor with this power would be a killing machine in his own right. You'd have to add more drawbacks. Like:</p><p>1> Like I said, no using powers or wands or whatever.</p><p>2> Anything that would affect a person but wouldn't affect the construct (the extra damage from a crit, ability damage, some Fort saves, anything mind-affecting), or anything that allows a Will save, affects the person inside the shell instead of the construct.</p><p>3> You can't wear heavy equipment while inside (same wording as Ectoplasmic Armor).</p><p></p><p>There's also a logical inconsistency; the Astral Construct I construct is size Small, so how can a Medium spellcaster fit inside? You'd have to have the minimum for a Medium race be the AC 2, which makes this a level 4 power.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Spatzimaus, post: 1168286, member: 3051"] I agree with Dinkeldog, but he's basing in on Ecto Puppet, which also says you must use your highest AC power. Since no one I know has ever played it that way, though, I don't see a problem with changing it. It's a nice concept, but there are some questions that need to be asked. 1> Can you be damaged while inside your construct? 2> Does it prevent you from manifesting other powers while inside your construct? If the answers are "no" to both, then it's a HUGE buffing power. You gain a lot of "buffer" HP, DR, and Natural AC. You gain sizes, which increases both your reach and your land speed. You can gain Fly speed or swim speed. If someone can't attack you separately from your construct, then you're effectively immune to critical hits, subdual damage, ability/energy drain, Charm/Dominate/Hold Person, or most things requiring a Fortitude save. Even if you don't allow the encapsulated psion to use powers, it's still superior to Tenser's Transformation. Let's compare: Tenser's (Wizard 6): +(2*level) HP from increased CON, so +22 to +40; while the rest of the abilities stay when these HP are lost, you have to heal them before the spell wears off or you'll die. +4 STR, +4 DEX +4 Natural AC +7 Fortitude (+2 from the CON, +5 separate) Martial weapon proficiencies BAB=level, including extra iterative attacks Costs a potion. Ecto Construct (let's take the 6th-level version, using an AC 4 as our shell): +27 HP (once these are gone, though, the rest of the abilities go away) STR goes to 25+half mine, DEX goes to 15+half mine +5 Natural AC, but a -1 to AC thanks to size Immune to many things requiring a Fort save Gain a nice Slam attack that's as good (or better than) any martial weapon A big attack bonus thanks to your huge STR, but no iterative attacks Large size (10' reach, 50' base movement), DR 5/magic, and a menu B ability or two from menu A If you can't be targetted separately, you're now type Construct effectively, with all the bonuses that gives. No cost. The point is, even if it adds a Tenser-like "can't cast spells or use wands" clause, it's still a more desirable spell in a lot of ways. It's far stronger if you've got all the Mind's Eye construct Feats like Extended Construction, Advanced Construction, etc.; a Constructor with this power would be a killing machine in his own right. You'd have to add more drawbacks. Like: 1> Like I said, no using powers or wands or whatever. 2> Anything that would affect a person but wouldn't affect the construct (the extra damage from a crit, ability damage, some Fort saves, anything mind-affecting), or anything that allows a Will save, affects the person inside the shell instead of the construct. 3> You can't wear heavy equipment while inside (same wording as Ectoplasmic Armor). There's also a logical inconsistency; the Astral Construct I construct is size Small, so how can a Medium spellcaster fit inside? You'd have to have the minimum for a Medium race be the AC 2, which makes this a level 4 power. [/QUOTE]
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