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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 6649979" data-attributes="member: 58172">In this case, a psionic character is using normal mechanics and normal spells. So, in certain settings, even an Enchanter Wizard might flavor as a Telepath.So there needs to be a mechanism that serves as a prerequisite for doing a ‘mental grapple’.Maybe taking the Telepathy cantrip invites the possibility of psionic combat? The psionic combat seems to presuppose telepathic abilities - but not all psionic characters have telepathOr maybe a ‘psionic’ tag means a person casts spells without material and somatic components - and this invites the possibility of psionic combat?Something like that. That exactly would be fine with me.Preventing time loss at the table is the highest goal.It is possible to continue to (mis)use the Freudian flavor. So, escaping a grapple using a Wisdom bonus instead of a Charisma or Intelligence bonus is a ‘Tower of Iron Will’ maneuver. But it seems unnecessary?I tend to view these kinds of phenomena the same way.I guess it boils down to whether a player feels comfortable with their Pyrokineticists producing Fire Elementals. Probably it seems fine, if the Pyrokineticist is projecting ones own mind onto the conflagration.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 6649979, member: 58172"] In this case, a psionic character is using normal mechanics and normal spells. So, in certain settings, even an Enchanter Wizard might flavor as a Telepath. So there needs to be a mechanism that serves as a prerequisite for doing a ‘mental grapple’. Maybe taking the Telepathy cantrip invites the possibility of psionic combat? The psionic combat seems to presuppose telepathic abilities - but not all psionic characters have telepath Or maybe a ‘psionic’ tag means a person casts spells without material and somatic components - and this invites the possibility of psionic combat? Something like that. That exactly would be fine with me. Preventing time loss at the table is the highest goal. It is possible to continue to (mis)use the Freudian flavor. So, escaping a grapple using a Wisdom bonus instead of a Charisma or Intelligence bonus is a ‘Tower of Iron Will’ maneuver. But it seems unnecessary? I tend to view these kinds of phenomena the same way. I guess it boils down to whether a player feels comfortable with their Pyrokineticists producing Fire Elementals. Probably it seems fine, if the Pyrokineticist is projecting ones own mind onto the conflagration. [/QUOTE]

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